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I’m a republican. I’m watching the Daytona 500. :toast2:
chief31;225349 wrote:Yeah. Let me rethink the math with a total disregard for logic, like you.How about Bellichick? Nobody has an issue with his success, do they?
If we eliminate the records of the most successful team in the division, how does that division look?
2010 – 22-26
2009 – 22-26
2008 – 27-21
2007 – 22-26
2006 – 23-25
2005 – 18-30
2004 – 23-25
2003 – 22-26
2002 – 26-22
2001 – 30-33235-260 or a 47.4% division.
WOW!!! That’s absolutely amazing!!!!! The same percentage, when you take away the best team in the division?
Who would have thought that you could remove the most successful portion of a group, and see that the rest of the group is less successful?
Mind-boggling, I know.
But, does it help The AFC North/Central to include that the numbers look even worse because of the fact that they had two expansion teams in there?
So glad I decided to to rethink that. Because it does make it seem like The Steelers were in a tougher division that what he Patriots have been in for the past ten years.
Nope.
So he was 8-9 in the playoffs, if you ignore his best achievement?
You don’t want to credit his earlier playoff short-comings to a new HC learning? You’d rather just hold everyone to the highest possible standard?
Meh. Go ahead. He still did pretty damn good.
Cheese? Whine?
Ooooo. Good one.
All the while, you are just reaching for every straw that you can, to try and discredit enormous success.
Acquiring a team that has dominated their division for fifteen years, just a year removed from a Super Bowl victory, with a track record of producing great players, to replace great players, and a DC that has learned to run the league’s best defense from the previous HC staying on board isn’t a great situation to start with?
Maybe you’d like to explain what is a better situation to start out a HC career?
I like Tomlin. But sustaining an existing success would be a whole lot easier than starting from scratch.
No more? The 8 wins to that 8-9, prior to his Super Bowl Victory season (So as to discredit him) is like Marty?
That’s just plain wrong. 5-13 is not equal to 8-9.
The fact is that you are trying to suggest that he isn’t that good, by pulling out his best achievements and saying that he didn’t have much success.
I have to think that it’s the chin, itself, that bothers you about Cowher. Because fifteen years of dominance doesn’t really lend itself to much criticism.
Do you really have to keep typing in that wierd font? It gives me a headache after two sentences.
Chiefster;225322 wrote:How ’bout Bill Parcells?
He’s had his time in the sun. Time for the new stuff.
bwilliams;225346 wrote:Let me ask – do you consider Peyton Manning a great playoff QB?Peyton Manning’s post-season record is 9-10.
Until the 2005 run, Cowher’s was 8-9.
Do you see where I’m coming from?
Peyton Manning has had very little support. From the HC to his OC to his recievers and RB’s to the defense, Its truely amazing that Manning has managed to bring his ragtag motley crew to the playoffs as much as he has this past decade.
Do you see where I’m coming from?Coach;225312 wrote:Agreed, don’t want to change coaches. Unless we could have cowher
I would love to have Cowher. But heres an interesting tidbit: There has never been a head coach that has won a superbowl and then go to another team, and win a superbowl. Not that we couldn’t be the first!
And I disagree with Teicher when he said Pioli couldn’t work with Cowher because Pioli wants complete control over player personnel. I think Pioli wants to win a superbowl – period. I doubt his ego would get in the way of that.Canada;220414 wrote:I wonder if his mom is a prostitute?I’m sure he’s sitting next to his mommy using her computer. Well, mommy – is it true?
Canada;220411 wrote:You ate pizza in the home of the worlds best BBQ? you are a charger fan for sure!! :clueless:Thats how they roll in diego…
85_skill;220390 wrote:I went to the first game of the year as a charger fan my wife got sick and couldnt go, i went with a gates jersey on and when i got to my seats there where chief fans in it who didnt belong there they wouldnt move and told me its their seats finally they moved after 5 mins after the fireworks. I watched the game and was very respectful. By half time and the rain and drunk chief fans, people started pushing me throwing things at me and after the game as i was walking to holiday inn i got yyelled at atleast 80 times being told my team sucks and that gates sucks my mom is a prostitute as i walk in the heavy rain drenched. Then some kid threw a jack daniels bottle at my head missed and hit a anothers persons car. I have never been so humilated in my life and will never pay the expense to buy tickets ever again. I thought the dolphins were bad, im a charger fan who recently noved here from san diego and i am asking for a job transfer, i have never seen such heavy people in my life, anyways the pizza and food is horroundous. If you like women in the 200+ kc is for you. Wow … Anyways stay classy chief fans its bot over until the fat lady sings… Wait 90 percent of the women fit that catogory in your city.Yeah – right. If this did happen – you most likely had it coming. All you goats fans are just like your qb – whinin’ and cryin’ ’bout nothin’.
The bottom of an empty Beer bottle. Going to fix right now.
josh1971;189005 wrote:Well, sure. And there are a few things I would have loved to have seen during either Free agency or the draft- first and foremost a beastly, frightening pass rusher of some kind. Now, watching some DJ highlight clips, one might think he could be it.We’ll see. I think we’re all hoping to see some success this coming year- especially with the sad shape the rest of our division is in. Let’s clean it up!!!!
Thats what I’m talking about!!!! :beer:
Ryfo18;188996 wrote:Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :rocknroll::rocknroll:I see I’m by myself here!! Thats ok – hopefully Pioli’s not done yet!! :chiefs:
josh1971;188989 wrote:Here’s a smattering of the stuff we’ve done since the season ended:Defensive Line- Shaun Smith , NT
Offensive Line- Ryan Lijia, G (FA) (Listed on NFL.com as a Center)
Casey Wiegman, C (FA)
Jon Asamoah, G (Draft)WR- Jerheme Urban, (FA)
Chris Chambers (Re-Signed)RB (A back to pound between tackles)- Thomas Jones
Dexter McCluster (Return Man?)Safety- Eric Berry
Corner- Javier Arenas (Also a possible return man)
TE- Tony Moeaki (Hey, didn’t it work out really well last time we had a TE named Tony?)
Plus, a lot of the guys of our own that we re-signed during free agency are going to be a big help, including Copper, Cox, DJ, Mays, and Studebaker.
So, we’re not addressing any needs or anything this off season? I mean, we’re just already quitting and calling it a rebuilding year? Nonsense, they have been making moves to improve the team all through this off season, most notably:
Romeo Crennell and Charlie Weiss.
Sorry, Bike. I’m not seeing where we need to be disappointed already.
JB
I’m not saying WE are disappointed. I’m saying I am disappointed. And not with all the off-season moves as you mentioned. I was just referring to the draft and not filling the holes that I mentioned below.
And its ok that we disagree. If everybody had the same opinion around here this would be a pretty boring place to be. But I will assume that we both want the Chiefs to succeed this year and get to the playoffs!! And next – the superbowl!! :bananen_smilies046:josh1971;188969 wrote:Oh for the love of….We’re not even through the draft, and the panic has already begun……
We have two 5th round picks left – thats it. Odds are they won’t be impact players at positions we need them to be. These needs will have to be met with free agents…
Canada;162172 wrote:Thank god we have you guys here to set us all straight. 83 yards…all our problems are solved. LJ tried earning his paycheck yesterday. Woo Hoo!! Some of us point out that LJ is part of the problem with this team and we have you two jumping down everyones throat. How come you dont defend anyone else this much? Someone said Haley and Pioli suck….where were you to defend them? How about our defense…you are OK with people talking about them. Get over yourselves, LJ gets paid to take criticism when he is not performing. Its the world of professional sports. But its good that you guys are here to say “I told ya so” like a couple of 8 year olds. :sign0098: 83 yards. whopeeHey, he almost had a 100 yd game.
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Just blame it on the offensive line.SIC J;162155 wrote:EXACTLY!Some of these guys are so quick to jump up and point the finger at someone else to blame the Chiefs if they lose and get really down and frustrated about it. So how the hell do you think the players are acting?
For some “die hard fans”, a lot of you sure as hell don’t act like it. You spend more time talking crap about the Chiefs than “supporting” them.
We all support the Chiefs. Just different opinions on what can make them winners. If we all had the same opinion, this would be a pretty boring place to be…
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