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    @jason1981 350744 wrote:

    Andy Reid doesnt k ow how to cover for our bad defense. You basically run the ball and eat up the clock and keep your defense on the sideline. Passing all the time only works when your score all the time but we’re not scoring all the time. That puts our defense in a bad spot.

    The defense is failing on the first and second drives of the game. I fail to see how running the ball helps the defense get off the field on the opening drives. The Defense needs to get off the field to allow the offense to work. The special teams needs to stop running out of the end zone causing us to start from the 10.

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    @Seek 350753 wrote:

    The defense is failing on the first and second drives of the game. I fail to see how running the ball helps the defense get off the field on the opening drives. The Defense needs to get off the field to allow the offense to work. The special teams needs to stop running out of the end zone causing us to start from the 10.

    Running the ball won’t help solve the defense as a whole. But it would help with them being on the field so much.

    People say we have not been effective running the ball that’s not always true. Yesterday Mccoy was averaging more YPC then Hyde was. A full yard more 5.5 to 4.5. Yet we only gave him 8 carries to 26 for Hyde. That’s part of the reason that our D was on the field so much. It happened last week as well. Being a more balanced offense would help limit some of the time that the D is on the field. But Andy Reid has done what he always has done. Stubbornly refused to do it.

    The D does have to get better. But we can do some little things to help with that on the offensive side of the ball.

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    @matthewschiefs 350757 wrote:

    Running the ball won’t help solve the defense as a whole. But it would help with them being on the field so much.

    People say we have not been effective running the ball that’s not always true. Yesterday Mccoy was averaging more YPC then Hyde was. A full yard more 5.5 to 4.5. Yet we only gave him 8 carries to 26 for Hyde. That’s part of the reason that our D was on the field so much. It happened last week as well. Being a more balanced offense would help limit some of the time that the D is on the field. But Andy Reid has done what he always has done. Stubbornly refused to do it.

    The D does have to get better. But we can do some little things to help with that on the offensive side of the ball.

    Making a play and forcing the opposition to punt. Also allows them to get off the field and rest. You guys are looking for answers. It is not the offenses fault the defense I horrific.. Now if you are upset the offense play calling was too stupid to score more points that our defense as giving up. Okay.

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    @Seek 350760 wrote:

    Making a play and forcing the opposition to punt. Also allows them to get off the field and rest. You guys are looking for answers. It is not the offenses fault the defense I horrific.. Now if you are upset the offense play calling was too stupid to score more points that our defense as giving up. Okay.

    Part of game planing is doing things to hide your weakness, In our case the defense.

    We can all agree that the defense has to get better for this team to be a champion

    But we can do things to help that on the otherside of the ball. Like I pointed out Mccoy was getting more YPC then Hyde was yesterday. Just think of what could of happened if we gave him more then 8 carries. Maybe instead of us seeing Mahomes standing on the sideline it would have been Watson?

    Instead we came out hot scored points early they adjusted Andy just kept chucking the ball all over with a clearly hobbled QB. In short the head coach refusal to change from his norm in the slightest hurt them majorly. And it’s something that we have seen time and time again from Andy Reid.

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    And why no Darrel Williams as far as getting carries from scrimmage? Poor Darrel Williams has got to be chomping at the bit & wondering why he isn’t getting any carries in the running game.

    Memo to Andy Reid:

    Vince Lombardi once said “Football is first a foremost a running game — that will never change”. The last two games have been lost because opponents are running the ball more and running the ball better than what the Chiefs have done. The numbers don’t lie and tell the story of the last two games.

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    @brdempsey69 350764 wrote:

    And why no Darrel Williams as far as getting carries from scrimmage? Poor Darrel Williams has got to be chomping at the bit & wondering why he isn’t getting any carries in the running game.

    Memo to Andy Reid:

    Vince Lombardi once said “Football is first a foremost a running game — that will never change”. The last two games have been lost because opponents are running the ball more and running the ball better than what the Chiefs have done. The numbers don’t lie and tell the story of the last two games.

    What I don’t get is the run takes pressure off your quarterback. The D can’t pin their ears back and just got after the Quarterback. Which is what I think has happened the last two games. The D knows it’s coming.

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    Why Reid doesn’t use his run game more than he does, I’ll never understand. After McCoy’s performance, and after that screen play broke wide open, and the state of our O-line, you’d think he’d just say “Let’s pound the rock” and cut Mahomes loose when they started to crowd the line.

    The Indy game could’ve gone much, much worse. Imagine if Luck had been behind center, combined with them running the ball effectively. This D would’ve been shredded.

    IMO where we lost the Texans game was when we went up 17-3 but couldn’t stop them afterwards. That was the moment we needed to put the boot on the Texans’ throat. If the offense had scored to make the lead 24-3, think the Texans would’ve folded at that moment. They have a bad history of if a team gets on top of them, they’ll pack it in. If you’re up only by a TD or two, Deshaun Watson has shown from other games he can come back from that.

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    I have started to wonder what this team would look like under Dick Vermiel, Marty Schottenhemeir and Gunther Cuningham, if the defense and Patrick Mahomes would be even better under those fine leaders. I feel the defense would be so much better under that staff.

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    @Chiefs4life24 350804 wrote:

    I have started to wonder what this team would look like under Dick Vermiel, Marty Schottenhemeir and Gunther Cuningham, if the defense and Patrick Mahomes would be even better under those fine leaders. I feel the defense would be so much better under that staff.

    Gunther (both as head coach and later DC under Vermeil) suffered from a similar problem to what Sutton, and now Spags are going through – no help whatsoever from the front office. We’ve lost far more than we’ve gained. Don’t think that we would be any better in the secondary but do think Gunther would’ve been more aggressive at the line.

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    Another week to bump this

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    @matthewschiefs 351767 wrote:

    Another week to bump this

    I dont fault Reid for this loss. Yeah he called a timeout for the 2 point but only 27 seconds left anyways and we didn’t even use our last time out. So that a non factor. What cost the game was the fumble for td, and the freaken early snap on the field goal. Take away one of those plays chiefs win. That’s on the players.

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    When I see this thread popping back up is this…Okay, you don’t want Reid as HC, then who do you want?

    It’s understandable to upset with Reid’s “quirks” but at the same time let’s not take things for granted. Reid’s far from perfect, but under him, we’ve hosted a AFCCG, won playoff games, consistently gone to the playoffs, and have broken the KC curse of not being able to draft a QB worth a hoot. We’ve got consistently sold out games when parking alone is $60.

    If we decide to can Reid, we could easily find ourselves in a situation where we’re watching a team slowly implode itself right in front of us (again).

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    @Eydugstr 351777 wrote:

    When I see this thread popping back up is this…Okay, you don’t want Reid as HC, then who do you want?

    It’s understandable to upset with Reid’s “quirks” but at the same time let’s not take things for granted. Reid’s far from perfect, but under him, we’ve hosted a AFCCG, won playoff games, consistently gone to the playoffs, and have broken the KC curse of not being able to draft a QB worth a hoot. We’ve got consistently sold out games when parking alone is $60.

    If we decide to can Reid, we could easily find ourselves in a situation where we’re watching a team slowly implode itself right in front of us (again).

    This is a question I see alot when discussing Reid. My answer is I don’t know.

    But what I know is Reid has a track record of not being able to get the team to a championship level. As I stated I do think Reid is a very good NFL head coach and I do give him credit for the job he did when he did it. But I am seeing way to many of the worts of a Andy Reid team popping up on us in the last 2 games for me to think that it’s going to end any different then it always has. Hopefully he proves me wrong and we can all laugh at me being a dummy again. But I am going to have to see it

    I would start with OC Eric Bieniemy if he doesn’t work out try again. Is there risk hell yeah there is. But ask Eagles fans if it’s worth it?

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    @matthewschiefs 351779 wrote:

    This is a question I see alot when discussing Reid. My answer is I don’t know.

    But what I know is Reid has a track record of not being able to get the team to a championship level. As I stated I do think Reid is a very good NFL head coach and I do give him credit for the job he did when he did it. But I am seeing way to many of the worts of a Andy Reid team popping up on us in the last 2 games for me to think that it’s going to end any different then it always has. Hopefully he proves me wrong and we can all laugh at me being a dummy again. But I am going to have to see it

    I would start with OC Eric Bieniemy if he doesn’t work out try again. Is there risk hell yeah there is. But ask Eagles fans if it’s worth it?

    Eric Bienemy isn’t a bad idea. We wouldn’t have to blow up & rebuild the team if we went that route, and would have a much better chance of keeping really skilled players around (Mahomes, Hill). With Reid not getting any younger, it wouldn’t surprise me if Bienemy is being groomed for the job down the road. It makes me wonder if he’ll be stuck in the same situation with the D though.

    No, Eagles fans weren’t complaining when Pederson was hoisting the Lombardi, but they were pretty vocal after following a man named “Chip” into a few pro football seasons, after Reid.

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