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@brdempsey69 347956 wrote:
The thing that bothers me the most about the AFCG, is the way the Chiefs came out almost totally NOT ready & NOT prepared for this game, and yes, that does fall on Andy Reid.
There seemingly was NO plan of attack on either side of the ball, and it showed in the 1st half of that game.
It would be one thing if this was an isolated case but it’s the norm with Reid teams. They either come out lifeless or they come out hot and then are lifeless for the end of the game. It’s what Reid teams do.
@matthewschiefs 347954 wrote:
I’ve seen this argument a lot. And hey I get it.
But I just don’t think that because things could be worse we shouldn’t try to get better.
It could have been worse the Alex remember Cassel.Palko,Quinn ECT so we shouldn’t have tried to get Mahomes?
So what coach do you see in the draft and combine that is available for the Chiefs to sign and sit a year behind Andy and learn?
I get your argument but your analogy is suggesting there is already a coach available with the known tangibles to be potentially be better than Reid. If that guy is there, we should sign him as our DC or OC./
@TopekaRoy 347967 wrote:
I don’t see anyone out there that would be a step up from Reid. Except maybe Matt Nagy!
Oh, but he’s not going anywhere for a while. :smile
I do. He’s already in KC. Eric Bieniemy.
I’m going to go out on the limb and call it right here. Bieniemy will be the next Chiefs HC. And I think he will be a very good one.
@Seek 347966 wrote:
So what coach do you see in the draft and combine that is available for the Chiefs to sign and sit a year behind Andy and learn?
I get your argument but your analogy is suggesting there is already a coach available with the known tangibles to be potentially be better than Reid. If that guy is there, we should sign him as our DC or OC./
I wasn’t making an analogy about any position just a mindset
The mindset of well we had worse so we should stick with Reid just doesn’t make sense to me. We have had worse and yes it would be a risk to make the move. But it was a risk to move on from Alex with a unproven QB. Sometimes that risk can pay off.
@matthewschiefs 347974 wrote:
I wasn’t making an analogy about any position just a mindset
The mindset of well we had worse so we should stick with Reid just doesn’t make sense to me. We have had worse and yes it would be a risk to make the move. But it was a risk to move on from Alex with a unproven QB. Sometimes that risk can pay off.
See my previous post, Matt. The Chiefs already have a HC candidate in place — Eric Bieniemy. I do think he has the potential to be better than Reid. It could be that Eric Bieniemy didn’t accept any HC position elsewhere because he could be Reid’s successor, here. Andy is getting up there in years (60) and who knows how much longer he may want to continue.
@matthewschiefs 347974 wrote:
I wasn’t making an analogy about any position just a mindset
The mindset of well we had worse so we should stick with Reid just doesn’t make sense to me. We have had worse and yes it would be a risk to make the move. But it was a risk to move on from Alex with a unproven QB. Sometimes that risk can pay off.
I guess the difference here, is that I still have confidence with Andy. I never really did with Alex. So the mindset to move on, was more obvious. We just lost in the play offs, in overtime, where a stupid penalty would have taken us there. I still believe Andy can do it.
@Seek 347977 wrote:
I guess the difference here, is that I still have confidence with Andy. I never really did with Alex. So the mindset to move on, was more obvious. We just lost in the play offs, in overtime, where a stupid penalty would have taken us there. I still believe Andy can do it.
If it were not for the fact we got off to as bad of a start I don’t think that stupid penalty would have been what held us back. I just can’t get over how unready we were to play in the biggest game of the season. AT HOME.
@matthewschiefs 347980 wrote:
If it were not for the fact we got off to as bad of a start I don’t think that stupid penalty would have been what held us back. I just can’t get over how unready we were to play in the biggest game of the season. AT HOME.
You speak for me, as well, regarding that matter. When you get this chance that the Chiefs had last Sunday, you have to be READY & you have to be PREPARED, and they did not get it done. That does fall on Andy Reid. There seemingly was NO plan of attack on either side of the ball & you can’t wait until half-time to decide to get into a game of this magnitude.
@matthewschiefs 347980 wrote:
If it were not for the fact we got off to as bad of a start I don’t think that stupid penalty would have been what held us back. I just can’t get over how unready we were to play in the biggest game of the season. AT HOME.
Yeah, I made the comment in the game day thread that And was being clowned. That is exactly what happened the last time we played them. Andy made adjustments on Offense and we stormed back. The Defense. Not so much.
@Seek 347987 wrote:
Yeah, I made the comment in the game day thread that And was being clowned. That is exactly what happened the last time we played them. Andy made adjustments on Offense and we stormed back. The Defense. Not so much.
This is why I don’t expect for anything to change this has happened throughout Reid’s career and he hasn’t learned. I just can’t expect it to change now. He’s not going anywhere anytime soon. But I really think that it’s time to move on
@matthewschiefs 348032 wrote:
This is why I don’t expect for anything to change this has happened throughout Reid’s career and he hasn’t learned. I just can’t expect it to change now. He’s not going anywhere anytime soon. But I really think that it’s time to move on
I’ll go out on the limb here & say that he a has a 2-3 year window to get this team a SB trophy, or else a change might very well be made. It still disgusts me that this team wasn’t better prepared & more ready for the AFCG & how do we know if we’ll ever get this opportunity again? Each season is a different entity, although 50 years ago, the 1969 season did seem very much like an extension of the 1968 season with just a few changes between those seasons. Maybe history will repeat itself. Time will tell.
All I know is I’m thankful Reid recognizes that we needed to get rid of Sutton. You need to understand that Reid is a quality guy that players and coaches love to work under and his leadership role in discipline will never change due to that fact. He’s not hard enough on the people beneath him like a boss should be. That’s not a bad thing necessarily. Our chiefs are being treated fairly and equAlly. Even Brady has publicly said he doesn’t like Billachick and how he treats the players. But that’s what gets you rings. Jim Harbough would be an excellent replacement to get us to a SB but our players would become disgruntled and no longer wish to play for us. Who wants to win a SB and then watch Mahomes walk away? That’s what would happen IMO
we’re close and I want to see Reid get his SB win WITH us! Switching up the defense who was the weak link this year shows he’s doing all he knows how. Give the guy a break and let’s give him another shot before we scream to replace Reid
Time to bump this again
Todays game was a game we saw many times during the Alex Smith era. We score points early then go the rest of the game scoring very little. 17 points in the first then 7 the rest of the game. People blamed Alex Smith for this stuff. But we are still seeing it with an MVP level QB. That’s on Andy Reid.
His stubbornness is why this team IMO isn’t going to win a title. He continues to refuse to do something as little as try to run the damn ball when you have a qb who is hobbled. Mccoy getting over 5 YPC only gets 8 carries after not getting 1 last week. Both resulting in losses. You just can’t count on Andy Reid to do anything more then what he has always done.
This pass happy is why sometimes the T.O.P gets so lopsided. But you can count on one thing It’s not going to change. As I have said many times Andy Reid doesn’t learn. Today was another game in the case against Reid.
@matthewschiefs 350743 wrote:
Time to bump this again
Todays game was a game we saw many times during the Alex Smith era. We score points early then go the rest of the game scoring very little. 17 points in the first then 7 the rest of the game. People blamed Alex Smith for this stuff. But we are still seeing it with an MVP level QB. That’s on Andy Reid.
His stubbornness is why this team IMO isn’t going to win a title. He continues to refuse to do something as little as try to run the damn ball when you have a qb who is hobbled. Mccoy getting over 5 YPC only gets 8 carries after not getting 1 last week. Both resulting in losses. You just can’t count on Andy Reid to do anything more then what he has always done.
This pass happy is why sometimes the T.O.P gets so lopsided. But you can count on one thing It’s not going to change. As I have said many times Andy Reid doesn’t learn. Today was another game in the case against Reid.
Andy Reid doesnt k ow how to cover for our bad defense. You basically run the ball and eat up the clock and keep your defense on the sideline. Passing all the time only works when your score all the time but we’re not scoring all the time. That puts our defense in a bad spot.
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