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12/07/2017 at 2:37 am #1062747
matthewschiefs
Participant::@ctchiefsfan 338915 wrote:
You may well be right and I may have my head stuffed up my ash. Being honest, it wouldn’t be the first time I was 100% WRONG. But do you agree that we don’t fire Reid unless there is CLEARLY a better head coach candidate on the market. If there is a coach available who is CLEARLY better than Reid then I can accept his being fired. But to be honest, if we were to fire Reid at the end of this year and hire some crippled toad I’d probably have an aneurysm with blood spurting out of my eyes, ears, mouth, nose and other parts of my body that don’t need to be mentioned. You may be right in suggesting that Reid is Marty 2.0, though of course only time will tell. But do you want to trade Marty 2.0 for a few years of 4-12 or 8-8?
You say Reid has to go. OK…so who do we replace him with?
I myself would give a good look at Josh Mcdaniels. YES I know he wasn’t that good as a HC in Denver. But he was in his early 30s then he might just have been someone that was not yet ready. I think he and Mahomes might be a good combo.
I don’t think they will actually move on from Reid after the season. But I really think it’s a move that should be done.
01/07/2018 at 1:40 am #1064273matthewschiefs
Participant01/07/2018 at 1:56 am #1064278jason1981
Member::@matthewschiefs 340668 wrote:
Instead of making a new post I’ll just bump this one
Last week was a high this week is just as low. We will never go any farther as long as Andy Reid remains the head coach. He just isn’t good enough to get past this
Reid got an extension didnt he? Id say fire Reid and bob sutton. Maybe give naggy chance at HC. And rb coach Belomy as OC and then promote someone on our D as DC. Our Toub as HC and naggy as OC.
01/07/2018 at 2:10 am #1064281chiefnutz
Member01/07/2018 at 2:21 am #1064283Chiefs4life24
Participant01/07/2018 at 2:27 am #1064284matthewschiefs
Participant::@Chiefs4life24 340678 wrote:
That’s why we can never ever be on par with the steelers or pats in the playoffs cause Tomlin and Bill Kill kill and kill some more, they make adjustments
And Andy stops killing before halftime
01/07/2018 at 4:24 am #1064285Chiefs4life24
Participant01/07/2018 at 4:20 pm #1064293ctchiefsfan
Member::Well…I am slowly recovering from my hangover and that shocking loss last night. I can say with certainty that the shock will last longer than the hangover. Again I see most of us blaming this loss being blamed on Reid. I will concede that some of the blame *may* belong in Reid’s lap. But I have a few things to point out and a few questions to ask…..
1) WHO WAS DOING THE PLAYCALLING???? Yes, I saw the commentator say that it looked like Reid was playing a part in the playcalling. But y’know, I don’t believe everything the commentators say. Yes they showed Reid consulting his play sheet menu, but I’ve seen that in all the games where Nagy has been calling the plays so Reid consulting the play sheet menu doesn’t mean he was calling the plays again. Was the same person calling the plays in the first half and the second half or was it one person in the first half and someone different in the second half. I don’t know the answer to this so I’m simply asking if anyone really does.
2) I think an important part of this loss was that stupid play where the ball was knocked down by a Chiefs defender and it went right into Mariota’s hands for a TD. What should have been a TD-stopping play wound up being a Titan’s TD. Plays like that can really demoralize a player and an entire Defensive unit. And while past Chiefs Defenses (which for the last 4 years have been amongst the elite) might have overcome that kind of shock this years Defense has not done very well and I don’t think they had much fire left in them after that play.
3) I try not to blame bad outcomes on officiating (except in the heat of a game day thread) but in this case even the former VP of Officiating for the NFL called the Officiating atrocious. And Reid pretty much did as well saying something to the effect that he wouldn’t say what he thought he thought about the Officiating because he didn’t want to get fined. Those are pretty strong words by Reid standards. We have to be honest…it’s very difficult to overcome TERRIBLE OFFICIATING. I’m not blaming it all on the Zebras but I think it is fair to say that pathetic Officiating was an important factor in this game.
4) Further on playcalling or perhaps I should say the Offensive scheme. The Titans Defensive scheme totally changed in the second half. They were blitzing like crazy and the Offensive line seemed to have no solution to it. Is that the fault of a poor O-line? Or is it the fault of a poorly coached O-line? And if it’s the fault of the coaching of the O-line then who is the assistant in charge of coaching the O-line?
5) I’m not usually one to blame everything on injuries, but there was one injury during this game that was particularly critical….the loss of Kelce and that happened on an illegal helmet to helmet that didn’t even get called. Kelce is Smith’s “security blanket” and when a play starts to go to hell, Alex automatically looks for Kelce. With the Titans blitzing like crazy Alex was without his “escape valve”. Harris did OK, but he ain’t no Travis Kelce. All-in-all I think the loss of Kelce combined with the Titans Defense blitzing like crazy was “The Perfect Storm” that doomed us in the second half. Almost makes me wonder if the Titans D wasn’t doing some head-hunting. After all…the Titans Defensive coordinator is 80 years old, so he goes back to the days when head-hunting was a common practice. HMMMMM…makes me wonder. And of course, the loss of Eric Berry in week 1 was a real blow to our Defense’s leadership.
6) Lastly….the Chiefs curse of having great kickers who miss critical kicks in the playoffs continued. I’ve seen it so damned many times over the course of 49 years as a Chiefs fan and it’s really starting to PISH ME OFF!
01/07/2018 at 5:03 pm #1064294Chiefs4life24
Participant01/07/2018 at 5:16 pm #1064296ctchiefsfan
Member::@Chiefs4life24 340696 wrote:
#2 Unfortunately that is the rule CT when the ball was tipped he became an eligible receiver. He also has to have his whole body across the line of scrimmage not just a foota
Thanks C4L….yeah I know it is the rule. I wasn’t trying to say it was a bad call by the Zebras, just saying that I felt it was an emotional back-breaker for our Defense. Maybe had Berry been in the game he could have made them overcome that fluke play but since Berry went out in week 1 our Defense has been ranked something like #25 overall and I feel like that play just knocked them down and they just weren’t able to pick themselves up again. DJ tried like hell but it just wasn’t quite enough. Our Defense lost their swagger on that play and they just never recovered.
02/05/2018 at 3:39 am #1064678matthewschiefs
Participant02/05/2018 at 11:17 am #1064679NJChiefs
Member::@matthewschiefs 341210 wrote:
Doug Pederson and Nick Foles super bowl champs
The prosecution rest
Yes. And the Chiefs beat both of these teams. What a disappointment and once again a joke on us.
02/05/2018 at 4:58 pm #1064680Eydugstr
Member02/05/2018 at 9:17 pm #1064682Bike
Member::@matthewschiefs 341210 wrote:
Doug Pederson and Nick Foles super bowl champs
The prosecution rest
Reid won’t adapt to his players. Reid expects his players to adapt to him. That’s the difference (besides a Superbowl win) between Pederson and Reid.
02/06/2018 at 12:49 am #1064683jason1981
Member::@Bike 341220 wrote:
Reid won’t adapt to his players. Reid expects his players to adapt to him. That’s the difference (besides a Superbowl win) between Pederson and Reid.
No thats not it. Its reid wont adapt to his players. Its that reid wont trust in his pkayers. Reid plays not to lose. Pederson pkays to win. The play beforebthe half going for it instead of a field goal is case in point. That says everything. Reid would have never made that call in the s.b. reid gets scared and conservative. The only time not to be a conservative is in a football game. Lol
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