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    @Bike 340854 wrote:

    Well, let’s talk about our sucky cap situation for a second.
    2 players that will most certainly be gone with zero dead money:
    Revis – 4.5 mil cap hit
    Ford – 8.7 mil cap hit
    There’s over 13 mil right there.
    Players that could, or should be released:
    Hali – 9.4 – 1.7 dead money
    Johnson – 10.2 – 2.2 dead money
    Bailey – 8 – 2 dead money
    Parker – 7 – 2 dead money
    Everybody else that is taking up big chunks of cap space really has too much dead cap to outright release.
    So there is 49 million freed up right there. And that’s just outright releases. We should be able to trade one or two of those guys. And if we could restructure Houston and Fisher, that could free up some more.
    Berry has a whopping 25 mil dead cap space, so he ain’t going nowhere.
    Doable? I dunno.
    But that is one way to keep Smith for the remainder of his contract.

    Here is one way CT

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      @Bike 340879 wrote:

      Here is one way CT

      The only question is would the Chiefs want to do this for Alex.

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      @matthewschiefs 340880 wrote:

      The only question is would the Chiefs want to do this for Alex.

      That, my friend, is the question. The one thing we still have to consider is this: AS11 is STILL UNDER CONTRACT for another year.

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      @Bike 340854 wrote:

      Well, let’s talk about our sucky cap situation for a second.
      2 players that will most certainly be gone with zero dead money:
      Revis – 4.5 mil cap hit
      Ford – 8.7 mil cap hit
      There’s over 13 mil right there.
      Players that could, or should be released:
      Hali – 9.4 – 1.7 dead money
      Johnson – 10.2 – 2.2 dead money
      Bailey – 8 – 2 dead money
      Parker – 7 – 2 dead money
      Everybody else that is taking up big chunks of cap space really has too much dead cap to outright release.
      So there is 49 million freed up right there. And that’s just outright releases. We should be able to trade one or two of those guys. And if we could restructure Houston and Fisher, that could free up some more.
      Berry has a whopping 25 mil dead cap space, so he ain’t going nowhere.
      Doable? I dunno.
      But that is one way to keep Smith for the remainder of his contract.

      HOT DAMN! Way more information than I had taken the time to collect. Thanks for putting it all in one place.

      IMO, Revis is gone, Hali is gone. So that’s about $12 million.

      At $8.7 million Ford should go if we can get a stud OLB in the draft or pick up a decent aging veteran for less (maybe $5-$6 million). Ford is good, but he ain’t (IMO) $8.7 million good.

      IMO DJ, Parker and EB ain’t going nowhere.

      So I figure that when all is said and done maybe we are adding maybe $14 to $19 million to our cap space. Deduct the $5 million we are supposed to be over the cap next year, plus $4 million for draft picks and we have about $5-$10 million in available cap space. Throw in any kind of a decent trade for Alex to get us some draft picks and we’d be at $22-$27 million in cap space. Not rich but in decent shape and maybe with enough cash to play in the aging veteran free agent market to fill a glaring need or two.

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        Why shouldn’t we cut DJ and Parker. IMO anywhere we can cut savings we should do it

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        @Bike 340864 wrote:

        And keep in mind, all them players mentioned above come from our defense – a defense that collapsed to an average Tennessee team and knocked us out of the playoffs.

        Excellent point! Defense is where we need the most help. Especially RUN DEFENSE.

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        @matthewschiefs 340880 wrote:

        The only question is would the Chiefs want to do this for Alex.

        Emotions aside, I just don’t see that happening.

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        @Chiefs4life24 340883 wrote:

        Why shouldn’t we cut DJ and Parker. IMO anywhere we can cut savings we should do it

        I would like to keep both. But with the dire cap situation Dorsey left us with, it would make sense to trade or release them.

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        @ctchiefsfan 340885 wrote:

        Emotions aside, I just don’t see that happening.

        Consider this: If Reid can’t trade Smith for the picks he wants – Smith stays. For all we know, Reid has no intention of letting Smith go. I don’t think there is any way on earth the Chiefs release Smith outright. There are other ways to get our cap down per my previous post.

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        @Chiefs4life24 340883 wrote:

        Why shouldn’t we cut DJ and Parker. IMO anywhere we can cut savings we should do it

        Yes, DJ is slowing down. But he is still a team leader in the locker room and on the field. Remember that almost strip he had in the closing minutes of the Titans game that the Zebras screwed us out of? We NEED those kind of people.

        Parker I consider “borderline” at his price but we must keep in mind that all these cap savings we are talking about are all coming from our Defense…our same Defense that wound up in the bottom 8 in the NFL. I don’t care how good Mahomes is but if our Defense is giving up 35 points per game we are going to be a cellar-dweller. There is only so much we can strip away from our already marginal Defense. They were really good at “bend but don’t break” for 4 years. but this year they just bent TOO MUCH.

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        @jason1981 340863 wrote:

        We cam trade alex and rb ware to the browns who we all know dorsey knows both these players strengths. Browms have alot of picks to give.

        Yeah i think we can get browns to bite on this. We have to remember if teams know we will cut him anyways. And alex wont cry if we cit him cuz he will still get whats due plus money he signs with next team. So we could throw in ware to help.

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        @Bike 340887 wrote:

        Consider this: If Reid can’t trade Smith for the picks he wants – Smith stays. For all we know, Reid has no intention of letting Smith go. I don’t think there is any way on earth the Chiefs release Smith outright. There are other ways to get our cap down per my previous post.

        And RIGHT THERE is the conundrum. We are caught between a rock and a hard place. We need cap space…DESPERATELY. Our Defense is already weak. We’re terribly short on draft picks. Something HAS TO GIVE. And as much as I like Alex AND I REALLY DO, selling Alex is the only realistic fix I see. Of course…I’m not an NFL head coach or GM and that is a DAMNED GOOD THING!

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        @jason1981 340889 wrote:

        Yeah i think we can get browns to bite on this. We have to remember if teams know we will cut him anyways. And alex wont cry if we cit him cuz he will still get whats due plus money he signs with next team. So we could throw in ware to help.

        So you are saying trade Alex and Ware to Dorsey and keep West as our #2 running back? That’s a very interesting idea. Especially if it could really improve our draft situation. My compliments for really thinking “outside the box”. You would be a MUCH BETTER GM than I would. You probably play better chess than I do too.

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          I have an eye on a couple middle round runnings back I believe could be our #2 but we will see

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          So anyway, after posting all this crap, here is what I think will happen. Alex Smith stays right here. He is still under contract. Another year of maturity backing up AS11 will help Mahomes in the long run. Good night all.

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