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With the pick up of Goff for our OL I think we will pick Defensive but hard to say who they will pick. Everyone that has a tv spot or magazine article to print is picking differently for us but the bottom line is we know who we have already and the look of the Chiefs is up at this moment IMO. If they don’t use the draft at all and we go with the players we have we are way better on paper this year than last by a long shot so who ever we pick up is gonna make us that much better. I can’t wait for the season to start
Chief Tyler;128096 wrote:Thanks for another incoherent post and waste of thread space.I don’t see what the Cutler trade has to do with changing the top few choices, I don’t think Denver trades with a division rival, so it doesn’t affect where Smith lands. I would love to have the guy, most people have him going to St. Louis, it would be pretty nice to see him drop past them, he has awesome ability and attitude.
Sports Illustrated is a terrible magazine anyway. They cover things that anyone who doesn’t live under a rock already knows, but I guess that sells over sports rugby and curling
It affects us if we trade our one first round pick to denver for their two…:toast2:
Polleo Pit Man;128529 wrote:It affects us if we trade our one first round pick to denver for their two…:toast2:That’s not going to happen. I’m reading the Rams are starting to shop thier 2nd pick.
AFC West – ESPNAlso another piece of information in that article. The chiefs gave up 8.1 yds per rush around the offenses left end. Another reason to draft Curry if we don’t trade down.
:11:honda522;128091 wrote:Dude, we wouldn’t be picking a OL in the first round. Maybe in the second and third. We need a defensive play maker.I truly hope Pioli builds this team from the inside out. Starting with O-line. Can you imagine what Lj, Charles, Kolby, Cassle or Thigpen could do if there was actually blocking.
The tandum of Albert and Rookie Tackle will be a building block for years. It will help the investment of Cassle, and in the long run help the defense by controlling the game clock.
You can always get a line backer, or safety with a 15 or 20th pick that will be oustanding next year. It is rare to get the stud Offensive lineman that late in the draft. You have to strike now while we have the pick.
Seek;128588 wrote:I truly hope Pioli builds this team from the inside out. Starting with O-line. Can you imagine what Lj, Charles, Kolby, Cassle or Thigpen could do if there was actually blocking.The tandum of Albert and Rookie Tackle will be a building block for years. It will help the investment of Cassle, and in the long run help the defense by controlling the game clock.
You can always get a line backer, or safety with a 15 or 20th pick that will be oustanding next year. It is rare to get the stud Offensive lineman that late in the draft. You have to strike now while we have the pick.
You are correct about building the OL. However you have to look at the big picture. Albert is our LT and a good one. You do not draft RT’s at #3. Either Johnathan Luigs, or Antoine Caldwell should be available to use in the forth round, both are capable of coming in and starting at center. With the adition of Goff our OL would be greatly improved. If no one currently on our roster stepps up at RT then we pick up some one or the RB and TE are going to have to help out .
The #3 pick has to be Curry if he’s there and the third rd pick has to be a DE. Sinse we are moving towards a 34 defense, it needs to be big and strong to play heads up over the OT’s, Jarron Gilbert and Kyle Moore are possibilities. I know alot of people want pass rushers and that is a concern, but I read a AFC west blog this morning that stated the chiefs gave up 8.1 yds per rushing attempt around the offenses left end. That means Hali and company did nothing on that side.
:11:pbatrucker;128595 wrote:You are correct about building the OL. However you have to look at the big picture. Albert is our LT and a good one. You do not draft RT’s at #3. Either Johnathan Luigs, or Antoine Caldwell should be available to use in the forth round, both are capable of coming in and starting at center. With the adition of Goff our OL would be greatly improved. If no one currently on our roster stepps up at RT then we pick up some one or the RB and TE are going to have to help out .
The #3 pick has to be Curry if he’s there and the third rd pick has to be a DE. Sinse we are moving towards a 34 defense, it needs to be big and strong to play heads up over the OT’s, Jarron Gilbert and Kyle Moore are possibilities. I know alot of people want pass rushers and that is a concern, but I read a AFC west blog this morning that stated the chiefs gave up 8.1 yds per rushing attempt around the offenses left end. That means Hali and company did nothing on that side.
:11:Sure, our defense was atrocious, but think about what you are saying. You are right that no one drafts RT at the third overall spot. But if you draft a LT that is better than Albert, then you move Albert, not the better LT. If the Chiefs grabbed either Smith or Monroe, then move Albert to RT, we would have our bookends for the next ten years. Many teams these days have two first rounds tackles. I do not see why that is such a bad thing when you talk about protecting the QB, the most expensive player. The defense will be better than last year for one main reason. We cannot be the 32nd ranked defense again. We will get more than ten sacks and not allow 8 yard per carry. I believe that the team will be better because of the better coaching on defense. Just like you said that someone can step up at RT, why can no one step up on defense? Is Curry worth going third overall? The last time a LB went third overall was Lawrence Taylor. However, if you just want a LB to improve the defense, maybe Pioli can find an undrafted LB like the Ravens did with Bart Scott.
theaxeeffect4311;128759 wrote:Sure, our defense was atrocious, but think about what you are saying. You are right that no one drafts RT at the third overall spot. But if you draft a LT that is better than Albert, then you move Albert, not the better LT. If the Chiefs grabbed either Smith or Monroe, then move Albert to RT, we would have our bookends for the next ten years. Many teams these days have two first rounds tackles. I do not see why that is such a bad thing when you talk about protecting the QB, the most expensive player. The defense will be better than last year for one main reason. We cannot be the 32nd ranked defense again. We will get more than ten sacks and not allow 8 yard per carry. I believe that the team will be better because of the better coaching on defense. Just like you said that someone can step up at RT, why can no one step up on defense? Is Curry worth going third overall? The last time a LB went third overall was Lawrence Taylor. However, if you just want a LB to improve the defense, maybe Pioli can find an undrafted LB like the Ravens did with Bart Scott.Agreed…We need our bookend tackles. Albert can be great but having just one great tackle won’t do justice. I think we have to protect our 14 million dollar investment and take Smith or Monroe if they’re available.
Damn it…Why can’t Joe Thomas be available at #3..j/k
honda522;128091 wrote:Dude, we wouldn’t be picking a OL in the first round. Maybe in the second and third. We need a defensive play maker.Actually, that would depend on wether or not the value of the available pick is better at Off or Def when our turn comes up. It has been thought we may take Brown at DE but Jason Smith has also been thrown in the mix. Personally I don’t think it would be a bad idea to take a OL for our number one pick since other teams will be doing so. Once those good OL guys are gone then everyone starts to pick them and yes if we were to follow the Carl Petersen method of thinking we would take a Def need but Pioli is a guy that does things much different.CP would wait to take OL because he feels that there are no values at that position in the first round , I feel differently and actually think if we secure our OL early , we can get a Defensive guy later. However we feel , Pioli will do what he must so it is best for the Team (Chiefs).
pbatrucker;128595 wrote:You are correct about building the OL. However you have to look at the big picture. Albert is our LT and a good one. You do not draft RT’s at #3. Either Johnathan Luigs, or Antoine Caldwell should be available to use in the forth round, both are capable of coming in and starting at center. With the adition of Goff our OL would be greatly improved. If no one currently on our roster stepps up at RT then we pick up some one or the RB and TE are going to have to help out .
The #3 pick has to be Curry if he’s there and the third rd pick has to be a DE. Sinse we are moving towards a 34 defense, it needs to be big and strong to play heads up over the OT’s, Jarron Gilbert and Kyle Moore are possibilities. I know alot of people want pass rushers and that is a concern, but I read a AFC west blog this morning that stated the chiefs gave up 8.1 yds per rushing attempt around the offenses left end. That means Hali and company did nothing on that side.
:11:I am not sold on Albert being a good LT yet. I think he and the offensive line was severly protected by Thigpens mobility and scrambling.
I have no problems with the Chiefs drafting another LT, move Albert to RT, or guard.
Seek;128803 wrote:I am not sold on Albert being a good LT yet. I think he and the offensive line was severly protected by Thigpens mobility and scrambling.I have no problems with the Chiefs drafting another LT, move Albert to RT, or guard.
I completely agree, and don’t forget the fact that we were in shotgun most of the time, so he was able to get away with less than stellar protection even moreso.
If we draft Monroe/Smith, we could have a pro bowl LT and pro bowl G/RT for years to come. I don’t think we should be ready to forget about LT for good now.
If we do our OL with the first pick, I say we draft Monroe and put him at LT and move Albert to RT as we now have Goff at RG and Waters at LG so I think we are just fine if we go that way. If not go DE and take Brown at DE. For as long as I can remember we have always had a RT issue, pluggin guys in because we hadthe solid line work of a LT ,LG, RG but the RT was usually someone we would just rotate in and out, basically because we have TG to stick over there when needed. Would be nice to have solid guys on both ends for a change.
KansasCityChris;128815 wrote:If we do our OL with the first pick, I say we draft Monroe and put him at LT and move Albert to RT as we now have Goff at RG and Waters at LG so I think we are just fine if we go that way. If not go DE and take Brown at DE. For as long as I can remember we have always had a RT issue, pluggin guys in because we hadthe solid line work of a LT ,LG, RG but the RT was usually someone we would just rotate in and out, basically because we have TG to stick over there when needed. Would be nice to have solid guys on both ends for a change.Can you remember John Tate?
:11:pbatrucker;128817 wrote:Can you remember John Tate?
:11:He wasn’t here very long. He was one of the good players that CP gave away to Chicago. He would be done if he had stayed as he retired already . How long was he with the Chiefs like 3 years? RT still an issue now and has been since Tait, before him I can’t recall a name just alot of subs.
KansasCityChris;128821 wrote:He wasn’t here very long. He was one of the good players that CP gave away to Chicago. He would be done if he had stayed as he retired already . How long was he with the Chiefs like 3 years? RT still an issue now and has been since Tait, before him I can’t recall a name just alot of subs.Yup! I was not happy with CP for that bit of idiocy.
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