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Chief_kickingtale;107178 wrote:That really worked out for the chiefs! Of course they did get some draft picks that we HOPE will be able to play in three to 4 years, then they will be FA’s and will probably sign somewhere else!
Chiefs will brake all the wrong records this year!:mob:
You wouldn’t believe it, but there are still people on this board who defend this trade.
jmlamerson;107182 wrote:You wouldn’t believe it, but there are still people on this board who defend this trade.I’ll defend it. Carl pissed of Jared. He was never going to sign with the Chiefs.
We got two decent starters instead of franchising him every year.
Now if you want to talk about the ignorance of pissing of Jared or how pathetic Herm has drafted. Okay.
Here is something toremember. I heard on radio this morning that the NFL’s worste record for team sacks is something like 13 sacks. The Chiefs have 6. One of those sacks was because a QB fell down on his own a yard short of the line of scrimmage.
The Chiefs could very well be the worste pass rushing defense in the NFL.
Seek;107190 wrote:Here is something toremember. I heard on radio this morning that the NFL’s worste record for team sacks is something like 13 sacks. The Chiefs have 6. One of those sacks was because a QB fell down on his own a yard short of the line of scrimmage.The Chiefs could very well be the worste pass rushing defense in the NFL.
What is even more sad, the first 7 games they blitzed alot! I bet they haven’t sacked the QB with just rushing 4, I would say the other 5 came on a blitz.
Seek;107188 wrote:I’ll defend it. Carl pissed of Jared. He was never going to sign with the Chiefs.We got two decent starters instead of franchising him every year.
Now if you want to talk about the ignorance of pissing of Jared or how pathetic Herm has drafted. Okay.
Fine, I’ll rephrase. There are still people who think we’re better off with Dorsey (we’d have drafted OL rather than Dorsey without the trade), Morgan, and Cottam than if we had JA.
The bridges weren’t burned entirely at the end of 2007. A new GM, and we could have kept JA as our franchise defensive player.
jmlamerson;107195 wrote:Fine, I’ll rephrase. There are still people who think we’re better off with Dorsey (we’d have drafted OL rather than Dorsey without the trade), Morgan, and Cottam than if we had JA.The bridges weren’t burned entirely at the end of 2007. A new GM, and we could have kept JA as our franchise defensive player.
I understand, they didn’t keep JA happy, and they made the move. I understand they didn’t keep TG happy, now he will probably go. I understand that they ruined LJ, and couldn’t keep he happy at night, and now he will have to go. Will will probably retire, and now who do you have playing for you? All the good players are gone. Starting to remind me of the Royals.
Obviously Allen is a better player than Dorsey. But he wouldn’t have made much difference this year anyway. 1 good DE wasn’t going to salvage this season, get over it!
JA would have made the pass rush MUCH better, but the Chiefs still wouldn’t have made it to the playoffs..It’s rebuilding time..!
It was a good idea to trade him, whether Herm picked the right players, well that still remains to be seen. Don’t forget that Jared Allen is standing next to Kevin and Pat Williams. Its not like they can just double him and forget about them. So he will have good stats.
brish;107198 wrote:Obviously Allen is a better player than Dorsey. But he wouldn’t have made much difference this year anyway. 1 good DE wasn’t going to salvage this season, get over it!
JA would have made the pass rush MUCH better, but the Chiefs still wouldn’t have made it to the playoffs..It’s rebuilding time..!
It was a good idea to trade him, whether Herm picked the right players, well that still remains to be seen. Don’t forget that Jared Allen is standing next to Kevin and Pat Williams. Its not like they can just double him and forget about them. So he will have good stats.
I’m sorry, but that is one of the most foolish things I’ve ever read. Do you really think that the way to rebuild a team is by trading a 26-year-old homegrown DE, who is one of the best in the league? What do you think “rebuilding” is? Do you really think its drafting a bunch of rookies and hoping for the best?
A team that was really rebuilding would have signed JA long term. A team that was really rebuilding would have signed some veteran leadership to mentor the rookies. A team that was really rebuilding wouldn’t be trading young, franchise DEs for project players.
I mean, are you serious? Of course we’re not making it to the playoffs with this team. But locking down JA at the DE position would have made better for the next ten years.
Right now, we have nothing to build on. Every bit of talent is being stripped away. And people like you are saying its a good thing. Get your head on straight.
jmlamerson;107182 wrote:You wouldn’t believe it, but there are still people on this board who defend this trade.I think you mean that there are people who have accepted it, the part I find hard to believe is that it still constantly gets brought up. Get over it man. It happened. He’s gone. We know you don’t like it. Are you adding anything new to the conversation or is this just another reason to bring it up AGAIN!
Lemme guess, you hate Herm and CP too.
Chief_kickingtale;107178 wrote:That really worked out for the chiefs! Of course they did get some draft picks that we HOPE will be able to play in three to 4 years, then they will be FA’s and will probably sign somewhere else!Chiefs will brake all the wrong records this year!:mob:
Post of the Year. Did you think this up all by yourself?
[ame=”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rSRJsjiBdY”%5DYouTube – Aerosmith- Same Old Song & Dance[/ame]Canada;107200 wrote:I think you mean that there are people who have accepted it, the part I find hard to believe is that it still constantly gets brought up. Get over it man. It happened. He’s gone. We know you don’t like it. Are you adding anything new to the conversation or is this just another reason to bring it up AGAIN!Lemme guess, you hate Herm and CP too.
The whole thread is about the JA trade – I didn’t start it. What was I supposed to post in a thread about the JA trade – how pretty the Chiefs look in their uniforms?
The question is, why are you posting in a thread about the JA trade if you don’t want to talk about it?
jmlamerson;107202 wrote:The whole thread is about the JA trade – I didn’t start it. What was I supposed to post in a thread about the JA trade – how pretty the Chiefs look in their uniforms?The question is, why are you posting in a thread about the JA trade if you don’t want to talk about it?
Cause its funny to listen to you post the same sh!t over and over and over.
…and I was responding to your post.
Canada;107205 wrote:Cause its funny to listen to you post the same sh!t over and over and over.First, you read me post the same sh!t over and over, you don’t listen to it.
Second, you’re angry because your faith in the imbeciles in charge was obviously misplaced. You’ve tried to stay in the middle of the road, claiming to dislike Herm, but liking the course we’re on. Disagreeing with some of the choices, but hoping everything turns out OK. Not really wanting the HC fired, but thinking he’s a problem. Being in the middle of the road on every single thing, hoping everyone thinks you’re a true fan because of it.
It’s cowardice on your part, not fandom.
jmlamerson;107206 wrote:First, you read me post the same sh!t over and over, you don’t listen to it.I read every post on the site, moronic or not.
Second, you’re angry because your faith in the imbeciles in charge was obviously misplaced. You’ve tried to stay in the middle of the road, claiming to dislike Herm, but liking the course we’re on. Disagreeing with some of the choices, but hoping everything turns out OK. Not really wanting the HC fired, but thinking he’s a problem. Being in the middle of the road on every single thing, hoping everyone thinks you’re a true fan because of it.
It’s cowardice on your part, not fandom.
I just want to clear this up. I am not Pro Herm but I am not completely ANTI Herm. He either does everything right or everything wrong? there is no middle of the road? He can’t possibly make 1 good decision because he has made mistakes now? Yes I hope everything turns out OK, you don’t? I never said I don’t think Herm should be fired. Find that post and then we can talk about it. I like starting a new team from the ground up, what is wrong with that? I am not sure why I am not a “true fan” according to you but at the end of the day I don’t really give a sh!t what you think.
BTW…cowardice is hiding in your mommys basement calling people names on the computer.:sign0098:
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