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08/01/2011 at 3:36 am #970571
chiefsrule
Member::matthewschiefs;231441 wrote:Since the pats last super Bowl win Pittsburgh has won 2 super bowl championships they hardley EVER sign guys to big money in the free agent market. The packers won last year anther team the doesn’t spend a ton on free agents. Signing big names is great for us fans to get pumped up about and all. But it’s not a proven way to win super bowls. You might get one if your in the right spot to grab a big name. But this team has not been in that spot in a LONG time.This is year 3 of the current rebuild as we started all over when we brought in Haley and Pioli. We already have one AFC West title under our belts. You can say it was just an easy schedule we won the divison by beating the NFC west what others in our divison couldn’t do. This is NOT a team that is struggling. Did they struggle against the top teams last year yes. That’s why they are the top teams. We didn’t get blown out against the colts when we went up against them in fact we could have should have beat them. This team was able to compete against some of the top teams just not win. Something that has to be learned by young teams. Something this team is learning now.
Good points. I still think we could be even closer to a contender though if we signed some good free agents but like most it is nice to dream about getting good players on this team in free agency. It obviously isn’t going to happen in Kansas City anymore though.
08/01/2011 at 3:36 am #970572chiefsrule
Member::DMN;231442 wrote:And sometimes an effort can be futile… Proof that we are trying.OT Jammal Brown Says Chiefs Were Interested In Him – Arrowhead Pride
Canada makes way too valid of a point that free agency has just begun and potential signees cannot even participate until Aug. 4…. Patience
It doesn’t matter anyhow most of the good free agents have been signed.
08/01/2011 at 3:47 am #970575DMN
Member::chiefsrule;231448 wrote:It doesn’t matter anyhow most of the good free agents have been signed.Soooooooooo….. Where has Aubrayo Franklin signed?!?! One of the 2 players you named when asked to give 5 that you would like to see the chiefs sign… you need to take a deep breath and think your whole stance through. You are contradicting yourself and posting thoughtlessly.
Man if you are this dismal now… I couldn’t imagine how unhappy you were during the herm era.
08/01/2011 at 3:50 am #970576ctchiefsfan
Member08/01/2011 at 6:11 am #970581chief31
Member::What I find to be the most supportive argument in Chiefsule’s favor, that he has not been real clear about yet, is that The Chiefs do appear to be having a yard sale.
We seem to be losing more than we are adding.
Canada makes a great point, that it is extremely early.
But by allowing our NT position to leave, and replacing them with someone we hope can do as well is a backward step. And removal of the most reliable O-lineman we had can also be viewed as a questionable move.
And, as we all find the players we think could have a real impact on The Chiefs, and watch them go to other teams, there is a sense of urgency that comes with that.
Overall though, I would remain patient, (what does one gain from jumping too early) and seeing how things finish up.
08/01/2011 at 5:37 pm #970598chiefsrule
Member::DMN;231451 wrote:Soooooooooo….. Where has Aubrayo Franklin signed?!?! One of the 2 players you named when asked to give 5 that you would like to see the chiefs sign… you need to take a deep breath and think your whole stance through. You are contradicting yourself and posting thoughtlessly.Man if you are this dismal now… I couldn’t imagine how unhappy you were during the herm era.
I read yesterday Fraklin is meeting with his own coaches in SF today with the possibility of returning there. Could have been he never wanted to leave but was trying to gain leverage to get them to pay him more. Regardless what would we do with Gregg if we signed him? I am sure we probably told Gregg he could start if he signed here.
Yes I do feel like we have lost more than we have gotten as far as talent. And I still feel with a couple of really good free agent signings we could contend for a super bowl. If you could do that why not do what it takes to get there now? I( think Blalock would have been a huge upgrade on the offensive line probably would have been better than Waters BUT as we can see we are never going to sign really good free agents anymore. I think it is just wishful thinking by all of us who go “I hope we sign this really good player or that really good player” Not going to happen with Clark in control.
As far as Herm the worst coach I have ever seen in my life. Just listening to his speeches made me sick the guy had no clue.
08/01/2011 at 5:48 pm #970600chiefsrule
Member::I remember Carl’s method during free agency is we would never seem to sign any players right away and we seemed to get what was left over. We overpaid for mediocre players instead of getting great players. I think that was one reason free agent signings never worked that well for Carl. We did have a few good ones obviously Priest Holmes was HUGE!
Anyhow guys I want to see the Chiefs win NOW. Super Bowl contenders not pretenders. We have the opportunity to do it this year by adding a couple of really good players so why not take the chance now and do it? Too many things can happen when you drag your feet taking too long as well. Someone could suffer a serious injury or we lose players for whatever reason and we start all over again. I am tired of hearing this “rebuilding” excuse. It should not have taken this long. As I mentioned other teams like the Jets and Falcons have turned into great teams already and contenders.
08/01/2011 at 5:54 pm #970601DMN
Member::chiefsrule;231478 wrote:I read yesterday Fraklin is meeting with his own coaches in SF today with the possibility of returning there. Could have been he never wanted to leave but was trying to gain leverage to get them to pay him more. Regardless what would we do with Gregg if we signed him? I am sure we probably told Gregg he could start if he signed here.Yes I do feel like we have lost more than we have gotten as far as talent. And I still feel with a couple of really good free agent signings we could contend for a super bowl. If you could do that why not do what it takes to get there now? I( think Blalock would have been a huge upgrade on the offensive line probably would have been better than Waters BUT as we can see we are never going to sign really good free agents anymore. I think it is just wishful thinking by all of us who go “I hope we sign this really good player or that really good player” Not going to happen with Clark in control.
As far as Herm the worst coach I have ever seen in my life. Just listening to his speeches made me sick the guy had no clue.
And these will continue to be the concerns of a smaller market team. I was thrilled when I saw that there was to be a salary minimum. I want to bring in the talent as well… But until we finish this year with a bad record and same struggles then I can’t help but be a believer.
It seems to many that this years FA period has the chiefs in the negative… and maybe it does. I want a RT. I want a NT. But lets give the team one week from today. Negotiations are going to be at their most involved over the next 2 days with FA activation being on Thursday.
We offered Edwards and Smith… just not the money other teams did. and lets not forget that with those 2 on the team we were calling for a change. Waters walked but I have to believe Asomoah will perform well having an entire year under his belt behind him.
08/01/2011 at 6:04 pm #970602chiefsrule
Member::DMN;231482 wrote:And these will continue to be the concerns of a smaller market team. I was thrilled when I saw that there was to be a salary minimum. I want to bring in the talent as well… But until we finish this year with a bad record and same struggles then I can’t help but be a believer.It seems to many that this years FA period has the chiefs in the negative… and maybe it does. I want a RT. I want a NT. But lets give the team one week from today. Negotiations are going to be at their most involved over the next 2 days with FA activation being on Thursday.
We offered Edwards and Smith… just not the money other teams did. and lets not forget that with those 2 on the team we were calling for a change. Waters walked but I have to believe Asomoah will perform well having an entire year under his belt behind him.
Unfortunately that minimum doesnt take effect until two more years. I was glad to see that too and sounds like we were the reason they came up with that according to Brees. I believe Asomoah will perform well too but Lilja is my main concern. He is an above average pass blocker but below average run blocker. Blalock would have blown up opponents d-line. Well in my opinion anyhow. Atlanta really didn’t want to lose him and they made sure they kept him.
08/01/2011 at 6:10 pm #970603chiefsrule
Member08/01/2011 at 6:21 pm #970604Seek
Member::In my opinion the miniumum cap is going to cause problems in the future. You will see teams having to cut ways or not resign key players in efforts to remain within the Maximum cap.
This will probably hurt the Chiefs the most as many of the key players we will want to retain are drafted players with contracts ending about the same time.
We will have to make decisions like keeping Flowers over Carr. etc…
08/01/2011 at 6:52 pm #970608josh1971
Member::Seek;231486 wrote:In my opinion the miniumum cap is going to cause problems in the future. You will see teams having to cut ways or not resign key players in efforts to remain within the Maximum cap.This will probably hurt the Chiefs the most as many of the key players we will want to retain are drafted players with contracts ending about the same time.
We will have to make decisions like keeping Flowers over Carr. etc…
Keeping Flowers over Carr is a no-brainer.
08/01/2011 at 7:21 pm #970612SAPHOJUNKIE
Member::chiefsrule;231484 wrote:I think most would agree that Waters even at 34 years old was much better than Lilja or Asomoah. We really took a step back on that o-line and I think it was a bit suspect last year.You think wrong. Most would agree that Asamoah is the best lineman on the team already.
Waters was washed up last season.
08/01/2011 at 7:37 pm #970615Seek
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