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chiefsrule;231396 wrote:Hmmm no only one team wins the super bowl. I guess if that is how you rate a team the Chiefs have sucked for A LONG time then.
Ah, yes – in most sports – teams are recognized by winning championships. And, yes, the Chiefs have been mediocre for quite some time now. And, yes, Pioli will get us a ring in the next 3 years or less. No doubt in my mind.
Bike;231398 wrote:Ah, yes – in most sports – teams are recognized by winning championships. And, yes, the Chiefs have been mediocre for quite some time now. And, yes, Pioli will get us a ring in the next 3 years or less. No doubt in my mind.Ok I hope you are right, but I say no way with our lack of player movement and Clark’s unwillingness to pay to get good talent in here. Like I said I predict we get worse from last years record….8-10 losses unless we make a big move to get a great player in here and again I hope I am wrong.
chiefsrule;231379 wrote:You said “Joe Montana and Marcus Allen were a FUN run….REALLY FUN! But what I really want is for it to be fun for 10 or 15 years rather than 3 or 4.” But then say “Older, inexpensive players help our young talent develop into stars much more quickly and because they are only here for a short time” I am confused. It seems like no matter what move the Chiefs make you are satisfied with it and whatever moves other teams make doesn’t make sense. That is what Clark wants out of the fans so he can continue to save money and keep drawing interest from fans and making them believe that SOMEDAY KC will make it to the Super Bowl again by having one of the cheapest rosters in the NFL
.I guess I wasn’t clear enough. The Montana/Allen years were fun. But in the end they didn’t get us a Super Bowl. In 40+ years as a fan I have been through a lot of “good” Chiefs teams.
I’m TIRED of good Chiefs teams.
I want a GREAT Chiefs team.
And IMHO blowing a ton of cash on free agents isn’t going to get us there. Might get us a “one time” Super Bowl appearance, but it won’t make us a dynasty.
I’m comfortable giving current management another 6 or so years to show their plan will work (assuming we continue to show improvement).
As for your hatred (or should I call it class envy) of Clark Hunt….get over it. In two years he will have almost no choice about how much money he spends.
I do not understand just what makes a great player that we need to sign. First, I believe we have great players, secondly I believe coaching and the team work make great players, third if players are so great, why do teams let them go? So I not really a big fan of the FA frenzy, Sure I am glad when we sign a player that fills a need, yes I am glad if they become great players for the team. I am a fan of any Chief. But the ones that are Chiefs from the start, I am a bigger fan of!
ctchiefsfan;231400 wrote:I guess I wasn’t clear enough. The Montana/Allen years were fun. But in the end they didn’t get us a Super Bowl. In 40+ years as a fan I have been through a lot of “good” Chiefs teams.I’m TIRED of good Chiefs teams.
I want a GREAT Chiefs team.
And IMHO blowing a ton of cash on free agents isn’t going to get us there. Might get us a “one time” Super Bowl appearance, but it won’t make us a dynasty.
I’m comfortable giving current management another 6 or so years to show their plan will work (assuming we continue to show improvement).
As for your hatred (or should I call it class envy) of Clark Hunt….get over it. In two years he will have almost no choice about how much money he spends.
We won’t have a great team at this rate there will constantly be too many holes to fill because drafting alone won’t get it done. I remember when we first started this rebuilding it was give it 2-3 years for the young players to develop well now it is 6 years or so. LOL! Like I said this is much like Carl’s 5 year plan. And it isn’t blowing a ton of cash on free agents if you get good young ones. I see where we blew a bunch of cash on our early draft picks. How is that T. Jackson pick turning out who signed at 5 year $57 million dollar contract with $31 million guaranteed. I would much rather spend it on a player who has shown they can play in the NFL then on one who hasn’t even shown us he will be able to handle the NFL.
chiefsrule;231391 wrote:When you are 4-12 it is kind of hard not to improve. LMAO!you mean like when we were 4-12 in herms second year and then went 2-14… I guess it isn’t impossible…….
So then give me your top five list of long term solution FA’s this year that will get us to a dynasty and why they would be better than future draft picks and/or our current roster of young talent with lots of potential. Then take into account their realistic contracts while leaving room for a big Bowe and Flowers extension within the year.
Your pessimism is alarming given the current state and track of our franchise. Weigman, Lilja, and Jones last offseason and saw a 6 win improvement and yet this year we are doomed.
And i am so tired of hearing strength of schedule… We are not winning the Super Bowl this year.. not pessimism just realism… we aren’t quite there. So this years tougher schedule just prepares our young guys even more about what it is gonna take.
chiefsrule;231403 wrote:I remember when we first started this rebuilding it was give it 2-3 years for the young players to develop well now it is 6 years or so.Current management came in 2 years ago. We went from 2-14 to 10-6 and AFC West Champions. They have EARNED another 6 years or so.
Herm and Carl are GONE! GET OVER IT.
DMN;231404 wrote:you mean like when we were 4-12 in herms second year and then went 2-14… I guess it isn’t impossible…….So then give me your top five list of long term solution FA’s this year that will get us to a dynasty and why they would be better than future draft picks and/or our current roster of young talent with lots of potential. Then take into account their realistic contracts while leaving room for a big Bowe and Flowers extension within the year.
Your pessimism is alarming given the current state and track of our franchise. Weigman, Lilja, and Jones last offseason and saw a 6 win improvement and yet this year we are doomed.
And i am so tired of hearing strength of schedule… We are not winning the Super Bowl this year.. not pessimism just realism… we aren’t quite there. So this years tougher schedule just prepares our young guys even more about what it is gonna take.
Blalock who was just signed and Franklin who was probably better than greg and younger. So next year we have DT to fill again. We are quite a ways under the cap last I checked unless we paid the mascot a few millions. Yes we saw improvement last year how could that not be possible how bad we were and the schedule we had. Did you look at this years schedule at all? You will see. Make sure you post on here at the end of the season after we don’t have a winning record of course as usual there will just be excuses.
chiefsrule;231407 wrote:Blalock who was just signed and Franklin who was probably better than greg and younger. So next year we have DT to fill again. We are quite a ways under the cap last I checked unless we paid the mascot a few millions. Yes we saw improvement last year how could that not be possible how bad we were and the schedule we had. Did you look at this years schedule at all? You will see. Make sure you post on here at the end of the season after we don’t have a winning record of course as usual there will just be excuses.I did indeed look at this years schedule and I will admit we are going to be tested. I understand the argument for Franklin I really do. But they may have something in powe. Bottom line I don’t care what our regular season record is as long as we give ourselves a shot at a title… and last year going to the playoffs was a step in the right direction but we got stomped.
Where we will have to agree to disagree is where I believe we are a better team and more prepared because of it. And that the player personnel decisions being made by a guy who has three rings should be given the benefit of the doubt… Especially since is has only proven progressive up to this point.
DMN;231409 wrote:I did indeed look at this years schedule and I will admit we are going to be tested. I understand the argument for Franklin I really do. But they may have something in powe. Bottom line I don’t care what our regular season record is as long as we give ourselves a shot at a title… and last year going to the playoffs was a step in the right direction but we got stomped.Where we will have to agree to disagree is where I believe we are a better team and more prepared because of it. And that the player personnel decisions being made by a guy who has three rings should be given the benefit of the doubt… Especially since is has only proven progressive up to this point.
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Listen by the time they even think about spending some money on good free agents Cassel will be past his prime and on the downside of his career and with the average expenctancy of a RB in the NFL Charles will probably be done too. Then we can start all over again and say well now we just need a QB (who will take several years to develop) and RB
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