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Here is my two cents on the whole free agency spending discussion. Look at the teams that are always predicted to be in the superbowl hunt:
Pittsburgh
New England
Green Bay
Indianapolis
Chicago
New Orleans
BaltimoreOf all those teams, how often do you hear about them getting more than one or two big name big $$$ free agents (Saints in the Drew Brees/Sean Peyton era). Chicago is the only one who seems to chase names, but they are usually people still in their prime.
The rest of the teams seem to have three things in common: great coaching, great drafting, and recent superbowl appearances if not wins (Ravens being the exception). They occasionally sign a big name free agent (maybe one every year at most) to fill a gap that came up because of injury or someone just not cutting it anymore. With great coaching, you dont need superstars, but the players look like superstars. How many times have you seen someone who is supposedly a superstar on the Steelers D, or the Colts, or Baltimore go to another team with a huge contract only to look like a huge waste of money? I honestly think it is because of the coaching (or lack there-of).
I think we are on the verge of becoming one of those teams. Look at our team over the last 3 seasons. We havent changed our players that much, but look at the increase in production. DJ is an all star consistently now. Dorsey (a Herm/CP bust) looks like a stud. D. Bowe is much more consistent.
Also, Haynesworth would have been a horrible pick for us. He is consistently out of shape and cant play 4 downs. He is not strong enough to play a NT on running downs. His skills come in his ability to make plays, and thus he is better suited as a DT in a 4-3. NE runs a hybrid defense and Haynesworth is going to play a hybrid role. I doubt you see him playing NT on a running down. He will probably only be a NT in a 3-4 when it is a passing situation, and play 3-4 DE in running situations (very similar to Richard Seymour’s role with the Pats 2-3 before he went to the Faiders).
Also, if you look at most of those teams, they RARELY seem to spend money on DL and OL free agents.
Thats my 2 cents … GO CHIEFS!
:chiefs:ctchiefsfan;231375 wrote:Older, inexpensive players help our young talent develop into stars much more quickly and because they are only here for a short time…1-3 years…they leave us with money to keep the young stars they have helped develop. Look at what Vrabel did for us.I’m generally not a patient man, but I think current management has a goal and a good plan to get there.
You said “Joe Montana and Marcus Allen were a FUN run….REALLY FUN! But what I really want is for it to be fun for 10 or 15 years rather than 3 or 4.” But then say “Older, inexpensive players help our young talent develop into stars much more quickly and because they are only here for a short time” I am confused. It seems like no matter what move the Chiefs make you are satisfied with it and whatever moves other teams make doesn’t make sense. That is what Clark wants out of the fans so he can continue to save money and keep drawing interest from fans and making them believe that SOMEDAY KC will make it to the Super Bowl again by having one of the cheapest rosters in the NFL
.I can’t listen to someone who started complaining about our lack of free agency moves 12 hours after free agency started. You clearly will complain about something no matter what they do. We signed Breaston…not good enough for you…we signed Kelly Gregg…not good enough for you. Keep complaining, when we win the SuperBowl it wont be by enough
Canada;231380 wrote:I can’t listen to someone who started complaining about our lack of free agency moves 12 hours after free agency started. You clearly will complain about something no matter what they do. We signed Breaston…not good enough for you…we signed Kelly Gregg…not good enough for you. Keep complaining, when we win the SuperBowl it wont be by enoughGregg 34 year old for one year. REALLY? Breaston as long as his knee holds up will be good but then we release Waters. REALLY this improved our team? We will be nowhere close to a Super Bowl with these kind of moves and if you are happy waiting 10-20 years at this pace to see how things pan out then good luck for you. It has been since Herm’s 2nd year when we started this “rebuilding” or should we say “MONEY SAVING” route.
Perhaps you can enlighten us on how you would proceed in building this team. Ala the redskins way? Just put millions on the table and hope for the best?
Bike;231383 wrote:Perhaps you can enlighten us on how you would proceed in building this team. Ala the redskins way? Just put millions on the table and hope for the best?Redskins have a bad organization to begin with bad example. I like how the Jets, Eagles, Patriots are doing it. Let’s see what kind of record they have at the end of the year and lets see what kind of record we have at the end of the year and you will see I will rest my case. Jets were as bad as we were when we started this rebuilding now they are a team that is building towards a Super Bowl.
You know what gets me is Chiefs could sign some grocery store clerk that has never played football before and some of you would go “That Pioli must have found a gem in this guy” Some of you will not admit the obvious that Clark is about saving money and he has no thoughts of spending any to get us to the Super Bowl. Just draft players and sign one or two decent players (not great) and hope for the best. Much like the Royals.
chiefsrule;231384 wrote:Redskins have a bad organization to begin with bad example. I like how the Jets, Eagles, Patriots are doing it. Let’s see what kind of record they have at the end of the year and lets see what kind of record we have at the end of the year and you will see I will rest my case. Jets were as bad as we were when we started this rebuilding now they are a team that is building towards a Super Bowl.I like how the Chiefs are doing it. We shall see.
With all the different views on the matter..(and there should be.. this is indeed a forum) I see strong points from either side. But as I stated in an earlier post I am on board with this GM… I mean I truly have faith in his ability to bring the Chiefs to greatness. Let us not lose sight that the last 3 years of this franchise have gone 2-14 (Herms basement) to 4-12 first season with new HC/GM cleaning up the mess to 10-6 division champs.
Until this ship starts to steer the wrong direction I can’t see how anyone can truly question Pioli and his methods. This young team has serious potential and I for one will set back and enjoy the show.
chiefsrule;231385 wrote:You know what gets me is Chiefs could sign some grocery store clerk that has never played football before and some of you would go “That Pioli must have found a gem in this guy” Some of you will not admit the obvious that Clark is about saving money and he has no thoughts of spending any to get us to the Super Bowl. Just draft players and sign one or two decent players (not great) and hope for the best. Much like the Royals.Sounds like division champs in 2nd year of regime change ain’t quite good enough.
Bike;231388 wrote:Sounds like division champs in 2nd year of regime change ain’t quite good enough.If we had last years schedule again maybe. I see about 8 to 10 losses with this years schedule UNLESS we do something major to get a great player not counting Hali who we should sign. San Diego will win the AFC west easily now that they don’t have players holding out at the start of the year.
chiefsrule;231390 wrote:If we had last years schedule again maybe. I see about 8 to 10 losses with this years schedule UNLESS we do something major to get a great player not counting Hali who we should sign. San Diego will win the AFC west easily now that they don’t have players holding out at the start of the year.I see 8-10 losses – for our opponents.
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