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  • #970885
    bbacker51
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    I think it is going to tell us more about the how good Pioli and Haley are at managing a team. a record 8-8 and above will say a lot about their managing ability. However anything below and we may be in trouble.

    #970888
    chief31
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    Canada;231717 wrote:
    I could use an extra hand. It would be neat to be triple fisted!! :bananen_smilies046:

    OH STOP IT! You still squeal at the double-fisting.😆

    #970895
    DMN
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    Since tomorrow is the official go day I am interested to see if they get the Hali/Carr situation sorted and in camp.

    And to add some Oline depth… Bring in some competition at RT. Broken record I know but I think it is the biggest area of need.

    #970899
    matthewschiefs
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    ctchiefsfan;231795 wrote:
    When everything is said and done, I think this promises to be a tough season regardless what happens in Free Agency.

    Last year we had several games that but for a whisker could have gone the other way. With just a few small breaks we could have gone 12-4 or 8-8. I expect that this year will be much the same. If we get a few small breaks I think we go 10-6 again. If we can’t catch break to save our lives 8-8 or even 7-9 is conceivable.

    I expect that Haley realizes just how narrow the difference between a great season and a mediocre one is likely to be and so I expect to see him make some more surprising calls on 4th down.

    We certainly have a tougher schedule than last year but I also think several of our younger players matured a lot last year and we have picked up a few that I expect will be able to contribute right from the git go.

    All in all, this year should tell us a lot about just how good we really are.

    :chiefs:

    We had our chances to win just about every game last year. Including at Indy. If D bowe doesn’t drop 2 td passes we could have beaten them last year. We didn’t beat a lot of top teams lastyear but they didn’t just blow us out. That’s part of becomeing a good team. We got blown out in the 2nd half against the Ravens in the 2nd half in this groups 1st playoff game. It happens a lot to teams in there 1st playoff game. The key to if this team improves win lost record is if this team learned to win the close games.

    #970900
    matthewschiefs
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    DMN;231806 wrote:
    Since tomorrow is the official go day I am interested to see if they get the Hali/Carr situation sorted and in camp.

    And to add some Oline depth… Bring in some competition at RT. Broken record I know but I think it is the biggest area of need.

    Hali might just be the reason that we have not gone out and spent a ton of money in the free agent market like some have wanted us to. I think we are going to do whatever we can to get him resigned.

    #970902
    chiefsrule
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    matthewschiefs;231814 wrote:
    Hali might just be the reason that we have not gone out and spent a ton of money in the free agent market like some have wanted us to. I think we are going to do whatever we can to get him resigned.

    But we will still have plenty of room even after resigning him. There isn’t much left to sign now, but like one person said there will be cuts. I love the Chiefs but I don’t hold out much faith in Clark Hunt allowing us to get the players we need to become great. I realize he needs the money for the stadium but it is holding us back from any Super Bowl chances in the mean time.

    #970911
    Canada
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    chiefsrule;231816 wrote:
    But we will still have plenty of room even after resigning him. There isn’t much left to sign now, but like one person said there will be cuts. I love the Chiefs but I don’t hold out much faith in Clark Hunt allowing us to get the players we need to become great. I realize he needs the money for the stadium but it is holding us back from any Super Bowl chances in the mean time.

    CAn you please post an original thought instead of the same old sh!t over and over!!

    #970912
    DMN
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    matthewschiefs;231814 wrote:
    Hali might just be the reason that we have not gone out and spent a ton of money in the free agent market like some have wanted us to. I think we are going to do whatever we can to get him resigned.

    Yeah but if you think about it they are moving forward thinking of him making the Franchise tender amount… Which is a ton (top five paid players at his position averaged out… I think)

    So if they can get him signed to a long term they will actually open up room under the cap this year… As long term contracts are usually back loaded.

    #970913
    chief31
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    DMN;231828 wrote:
    Yeah but if you think about it they are moving forward thinking of him making the Franchise tender amount… Which is a ton (top five paid players at his position averaged out… I think)

    So if they can get him signed to a long term they will actually open up room under the cap this year… As long term contracts are usually back loaded.

    I don’t think we need to worry about reaching the salary cap this year.

    But, how much do we need to spend just to hit the minimum?

    My guess is Hali’s signing would not bring us anywhere near it.

    #970915
    Canada
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    chief31;231829 wrote:
    I don’t think we need to worry about reaching the salary cap this year.

    But, how much do we need to spend just to hit the minimum?

    My guess is Hali’s signing would not bring us anywhere near it.[/COLOR][/FONT]

    The league minimum does not go into effect until 2013
    Per-team spending minimum doesn’t apply until 2013 | ProFootballTalk

    #970916
    DMN
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    chief31;231829 wrote:
    I don’t think we need to worry about reaching the salary cap this year.

    But, how much do we need to spend just to hit the minimum?

    My guess is Hali’s signing would not bring us anywhere near it.[/COLOR][/FONT]

    Well thats the problem… The only minimum this year is on a league wide basis. 99% of the salary cap number must be reached by all teams collectively. The per team minimum of 89% does not come into effect until 2013.

    So essentially the chiefs could sign Hali and still probably have around $30mil to spend to reach the cap…(I think we are about 28mil under right now) and not spend another dime.

    On this part I may be wrong but I believe that this then allows teams to go over the cap of $120mil to bring the league to the committed 99%. teams like the skins, jets, and eagles could spend upwards of 130-135 mil.

    #970917
    chief31
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    Canada;231831 wrote:
    The league minimum does not go into effect until 2013
    Per-team spending minimum doesn’t apply until 2013 | ProFootballTalk

    Ah. I knew that they 89% minimum didn’t start until then. But I didn’t realize that there was no limit for the next two seasons.

    I would have thought there would be some kind of spending floor.

    #970922
    TopekaRoy
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    chief31;231833 wrote:
    Ah. I knew that they 89% minimum didn’t start until then. But I didn’t realize that there was no limit for the next two seasons.

    I would have thought there would be some kind of spending floor.

    This has confused me as well so I did a little quick research on it … and I’m still a little confused!

    For 2011 and 2012 there is no team salary cap minimum (or threshold), but the league is required to spend at least 99% of the per team minimum of $120 million. I guess some teams can over the cap, if they wish to, but that will put them in difficult positions when they have to cut salaries to get under the max in 2013. If that league wide minimum is not met this year (and next), then the teams have to cut checks to the NFL players association to make up the difference. I’m not sure if the teams spending the least will have to pay more or if the shortage would be divided evenly among all teams. I also don’t know if teams that are at or above the max would be exempt from pitching in.

    The NFLPA would then divide this extra income among the players. Again, I’m not sure if they would divide it evenly or give every player the same percentage pay increase.

    I’ll try to find more info and if anyone knows more about this than I do, I would appreciate some clarification.

    #970942
    matthewschiefs
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    Canada;231827 wrote:
    CAn you please post an original thought instead of the same old sh!t over and over!!

    Come on WE ARE CHEAP. We are not doing anything. It’s not like we have gone and got guys like Steve Breaston, Kelly Gregg,Brandon Silver,and Le’ron Mcclain. Clark is just saveing his money. They haven’t got who i want so there doing nothing. 😆

    :ninerssuck::chiefs::chiefs::chiefs:

    #970943
    chiefsrule
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    matthewschiefs;231864 wrote:
    Come on WE ARE CHEAP. We are not doing anything. It’s not like we have gone and got guys like Steve Breaston, Kelly Gregg,Brandon Silver,and Le’ron Mcclain. Clark is just saveing his money. They haven’t got who i want so there doing nothing. 😆

    :ninerssuck::chiefs::chiefs::chiefs:

    Seriously???? LMAO. Dont forget Manno too if you just want to name any player we signed. Yes we broke the bank on those signings!!! LOL

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