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Ok, we’re going to agree to disagree or I’ll be forced to close yet another good thread, and would really not like to do that.
No more personalizing the thread topic.
Church_Backfield;152655 wrote:Canada you attack me online and your nothing but a drunk drug addict and that i do know considering you admitted to drinking and smoke pot. and im not a drain period im not on any goverment help or **** so dont run your mouth.I attack YOU???? Are you serious? You come on here blabbering all kinds of bullsh!t, then I respond with a well thought out post, presenting facts that you can not intelligently argue against, then you come one here telling everyone who smokes a joint of drinks a beer that they are a loser and drain on society…and I am attacking you? Wow…so you aren’t on welfare. Good for you, do you give back to your community in ANY way? I sure as hell do, I help people around me EVERY day. What do you do besides preach some bullsh!t church logic about what GOD wants you to do. News flash moron, God wants people to live life. Make mistakes. Learn from their experiences. You are so sheltered it is ridiculous. Go out and try and live a little instead of judging people. Doesnt it say something about Judge not lest ye be judged? Its a sad day in religion when someone like you is the one representing the Churchs beliefs. Don’t bother responding cause you obviously have nothing intelligent to post.
Why would i give back to a community of people who drink and do drugs? The city i live with is filled with people who are the scum of society. As for sheltered your a complete and utter moron. Ive lived in over 17 states and countless bad and good areas. I spent my fair share of time on the chicago southside and ive seen things your drunked little canadian *** would prob cry out in your sleep about. Dont act like you know me or say im sheltered. Your just a old drunken person who claims to be all this and that and your just what i said. You can claim to do all this and being a emt doesnt mean your the end all be all. Like ive said before i would not want some stoned drunk emt helping me.
Church_Backfield;152708 wrote:Why would i give back to a community of people who drink and do drugs? The city i live with is filled with people who are the scum of society. As for sheltered your a complete and utter moron. Ive lived in over 17 states and countless bad and good areas. I spent my fair share of time on the chicago southside and ive seen things your drunked little canadian *** would prob cry out in your sleep about. Dont act like you know me or say im sheltered. Your just a old drunken person who claims to be all this and that and your just what i said. You can claim to do all this and being a emt doesnt mean your the end all be all. Like ive said before i would not want some stoned drunk emt helping me.Wow, u truly sound like one of Gods children!! :sign0098:
I’ll re-open this thread if the personal attacks will end, but the moment it gets personal again I will close it…again.
Chiefster;153023 wrote:I’ll re-open this thread if the personal attacks will end, but the moment it gets personal again I will close it…again.:sign0098:
I’m for legalizing all drugs, lets get this stuff out of the underground where we can deal with it more effectively. The only reason there are still drug laws in this country is that the law enforcement agencies use the money from the things they seize. It goes directly to law enforcement, if they legalize it, all that money goes for different things… things that are not law enforcement.
We could save a ton of money and get a pretty good boost to the economy, but not so much from weed itself. Very few people go to jail over weed anymore, yeah once in a while there will be a big bust on a dealer, but very few recreational users ever see real jail time. That is not to say that there are not arrests for posession, but those arrests are mainly tickets with fines people will pay and head on down the road.
I know, most pot sites want to make it sound like there are millions of people in prison for pot usage alone, that really is not the case. Most of those that are in prison are in because of other circumstances as well. Here is a good paper about it:
So again, pot use is not the problem here, nor is legalizing it the savior that the pot-heads think it is.
No the real money is in Cocaine, Ecstasy and Heroine. Those are the ones that cause the crime rates to go up, where all the money is being spent and why most drug offenders are in prison. Those are the ones we need to legalize to see a cost benefit, unfortunately, the cost to society on legalizing those will be great.
Hayvern;153042 wrote:No the real money is in Cocaine, Ecstasy and Heroine. Those are the ones that cause the crime rates to go up, where all the money is being spent and why most drug offenders are in prison. Those are the ones we need to legalize to see a cost benefit, unfortunately, the cost to society on legalizing those will be great.Don’t care about pot or who uses it but when you call for the legalization of some of the most addictive and physically and mentally destructive narcotics on Earth to simply see a minor bump in economic stimulus is absurd compared to the long term health detriment you are going to impose on society and the population in general.
My opinion: let people who use hard drugs wipe themselves out. No great loss. As long as I don’t have to pay for it, I don’t care what people do.
DT14PRIEST;153154 wrote:Don’t care about pot or who uses it but when you call for the legalization of some of the most addictive and physically and mentally destructive narcotics on Earth to simply see a minor bump in economic stimulus is absurd compared to the long term health detriment you are going to impose on society and the population in general.I agree with you, but those drugs are being used, and these things you worry about are already happening. If you legalize it and regulate it, there is a possibility it can be made safer for the user. The problems hard narcotics have are felt in alcohol abuse as well.
In all seriousness, I would rather people not use drugs, I would also rather people not vote for socialist democrats as well but they still do it. It seems easier to regulate and control than it does to try and abolish it.
Hayvern;153182 wrote:I agree with you, but those drugs are being used, and these things you worry about are already happening. If you legalize it and regulate it, there is a possibility it can be made safer for the user. The problems hard narcotics have are felt in alcohol abuse as well.In all seriousness, I would rather people not use drugs, I would also rather people not vote for socialist democrats as well but they still do it. It seems easier to regulate and control than it does to try and abolish it.
I agree with you too a point and I’ll admit I don’t know all the facts concerning ‘hard’ drugs and their addiction rate.
But just going by what little I do know I think it would be nigh near impossible to regulate the usage while hoping to avoid a mass outbreak of addiction and dependence on the drugs themselves all just to stem the rate of drug related criminal activity and boost the economy.
If anything regulation will be as effective as the government trying to regulate the consumption of alcohol (which is practically impossible) only with hard drugs possessing an exponentially greater addiction rate and a significantly greater health deterioration rate. The bad just simply outweigh the good in that scenario.
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