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As has been mentioned, in a somewhat meandering way, the only way the Colts could have got any picks for Manning was to have another team assume his contract or to have picked up the $28 million bonus to keep him under contract so they could negotiate with another team for picks. What would have been the point? That $28 million would pay for 3 or 4 top free agents or to buy the first round draft picks outright. Severing the contract was the only way to free up the $50 million total bonus/salary they would have been responsible for.
azchiefsfan;257899 wrote:As has been mentioned, in a somewhat meandering way, the only way the Colts could have got any picks for Manning was to have another team assume his contract or to have picked up the $28 million bonus to keep him under contract so they could negotiate with another team for picks. What would have been the point? That $28 million would pay for 3 or 4 top free agents or to buy the first round draft picks outright. Severing the contract was the only way to free up the $50 million total bonus/salary they would have been responsible for.I never mentioned that they should trade Manning, I’m not sure any team would have given them anything for Manning, considering his high price and the risk he would be.
I was saying trade the #1 pick, like the Rams did. They could have easily got more then the Rams did.
Bottom line is the Colts were in over their heads and had to dump him, his salary was killing them, and has been for sometime now. They could not have dumped him, because of the fans, except that he was injured, and Luck appears to be a great one.
I still think the Colts as a team would rebound much quicker if they had traded the first pick on 2012.
I think they absolutely made a big mistake.
Peyton Manning took them to two Super Bowls, and is still young enough to keep it going for a few more years.
I say you absolutely stick with that guy. Trade that pick for several future 1st round picks, and look to build. When Manning goes, you have already have a football team built, minus one position.
Of course, if Manning, or Luck, should have problems, (injury, or just plain flopping) then it tells the story.
But the likelihood of Luck doing what Manning has done are very thin.
Seek;257896 wrote:What did the Colts have last year that makes you think they could Salvage this year even with Manning. The Colts were on the decline even with Manning the year before.Keeping Manning would only delay what needs to be done, and keep Manning in a situation that he does not need to be in.
My one argument against that idea is that last year the colts had pretty much everything that they had the year before, except Manning. So, if they brought Manning back, maybe they would become playoff contenders again? Maybe? We will never know now.
azchiefsfan;257899 wrote:As has been mentioned, in a somewhat meandering way, the only way the Colts could have got any picks for Manning was to have another team assume his contract or to have picked up the $28 million bonus to keep him under contract so they could negotiate with another team for picks. What would have been the point? That $28 million would pay for 3 or 4 top free agents or to buy the first round draft picks outright. Severing the contract was the only way to free up the $50 million total bonus/salary they would have been responsible for.Why not ask him to renegotiate his contract. He took a 9 million dollar pay cut from what he was supposed to make with the Colts. So why not go up to him and say, “look, you (and a couple other guys) are the only guys getting it done on this team, we need to sign better players to get YOU to the superbowl again, but we dont have the money for it, lets restructure your contract?” Maybe they did and he told them to eff off. Maybe they missed out … who knows …
Indy made a huge mistake but not this month. They overpaid Manning and neglected the rest of the team assuming Peyton was super human. That is on Manning as well and is equally his fault. Great your the most badass regular season qb in recent history and 1-1 in superbowls. Irsay put himself in a position where he had no other choice but to get away from that nightmare contract. They put all there eggs in one basket and went 2-14 when it went to hell. We will see if they learned from this mistake when they rebuild the team around Luck.
Stay tuned because you will see the Donks in a similar situation in the very near future, if he makes it through the 2012 season….
#58ChiefsFan;257973 wrote:Indy made a huge mistake but not this month. They overpaid Manning and neglected the rest of the team assuming Peyton was super human. That is on Manning as well and is equally his fault. Great your the most badass regular season qb in recent history and 1-1 in superbowls. Irsay put himself in a position where he had no other choice but to get away from that nightmare contract. They put all there eggs in one basket and went 2-14 when it went to hell. We will see if they learned from this mistake when they rebuild the team around Luck.Stay tuned because you will see the Donks in a similar situation in the very near future, if he makes it through the 2012 season….
YEP! You got this one right.
Indy could have kept PM with or without Luck or let him go and move onto Luck, and all of it be up for debate. But put that aside – they didn’t just move on from PM – they gutted their entire organization.
All in all, the fired / released / let walk their:
super bowl building GM
hall of fame QB
league starter ( and oft undervalued ) RB
league respected LB
one of, if not the best, TEs in the league
pro bowl center
one of their better WRs
shopped their pro bowl DEand I don’t know who else.
As I saw someone else post on another board, its like the football version of the movie Major League, where the owner is trying to make the team suck enough to move them.
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