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Drunker Hillbilly;125161 wrote:First. when I used the term “best in the AFC West” I was referring to you using it with the “NFC West”.
Second who TF are you to continue to spout off when someone else gives their opinion. You are continuing to whine and complain when people don’t give stats to back up every single word they say.
This is a “discussion Forum” not a “post your statistics or say nothing forum”!! The stats I provided were correct and directly from NFL.com. If you don’t believe them, take it up with them! The rest is simply my opinion! DEAL WITH IT!!!!!
IMO again IMO your statement about the Cardinals sucking last season is, how do YOU say, LUDACRIS!!!! You used to fun to banter back and forth with but now your just an a******!!!!
Now get your mod finger going and punish me the way you always do when someone cross’ you. Ive said it before and I’ll say it again and again and again, you are not the know it all that you think you are!
Everyone else here has some knowledge of the game and is totally justified for saying there opinion! You need to get off your high horse and quit thinking and displaying that you are the only one that knows anything about anything around here!!!:iamwithstupid:
Appearently, showing you twice isn’t enough. So…
Drunker Hillbilly;125161 wrote:So, the comparison between last years team and Cards teams of the past is not even close! If you break down the offensive stats from them they are overwhelmingly in their favor:Better avg stats than their opponents in 08 (Cardinals)
More 1st downs
More 3rd down conversions
Better avg 4th down conversions
More total offensive yds
More total offensive plays per game
More total rushing yds per game
More total passing yds per game
Better completion %
Better field goal %
More TD’s
More TOP
+8 TO ratioRanked 4th in points
Ranked 4th in total yds
Ranked 2nd in passingNow, have a look at your source. NFL.com…
(Cardinals Rushing yards per game ranking 32nd, with 73.6 YPG.)
(Cardinals’ Opponenets’ Rushing Yards Per Game ranking, 17th with 110 YPG.)
Now…
Can you see that? All of it? Even where you said that The Cardinals had more rushing yards than their opponents?
You did not present that as opinion. You present it as fact. And clearly, it is not!
Now, since it has gotten to be this big of a case, you probably won’t just brush this off like you usually do.
You will likely just tell us all how it was some simple mistake.
But I’m not buying that. Because you do it alot. And, since you refuse to admit ever being wrong, I have to assume that you are lying.
I enjoy opinions that I think are wrong.
That makes for great discussion.
But I’m not talking about an opinion. I’m talking about misrepresentation of facts.
If you don’t feel like checking the facts. That’s fine.
But conjuring facts that help your argument is lying.
Now, to address your reply…
Drunker Hillbilly;125161 wrote:Second who TF are you to continue to spout off when someone else gives their opinion. You are continuing to whine and complain when people don’t give stats to back up every single word they say.Give opinions instead of flat-out lies, and I can’t embarrass you by exposing your lies.
Drunker Hillbilly;125161 wrote:IMO again IMO your statement about the Cardinals sucking last season is, how do YOU say, LUDACRIS!!!! You used to fun to banter back and forth with but now your just an a******!!!!But an honest a******. Not a lying a******.
Drunker Hillbilly;125161 wrote:Now get your mod finger going and punish me the way you always do when someone cross’ you.Stop sniveling, and act like a man. You got one infraction from me, over a year ago.
AND I RETRACTED IT!!!!
I admitted my mistake, and retracted the infraction!
And yet here you are playing the poor innocent victim of never-ending MOD abuse.
Drunker Hillbilly;125161 wrote:Ive said it before and I’ll say it again and again and again, you are not the know it all that you think you are!I think you said it wrong. But I’ll help.
I am not the know it all that YOU think I am.
Drunker Hillbilly;125161 wrote:Everyone else here has some knowledge of the game and is totally justified for saying there opinion! You need to get off your high horse and quit thinking and displaying that you are the only one that knows anything about anything around here!!!:iamwithstupid:Oh, what a slick move.
Try to gain the favor of the crowd, by including them as victims of my merciless abuse.
A.) Don’t go into politics.
B.) I think you a very football smart guy. I have said it to you, and this site, on several occasions. (Not sure how many several is)
But I think that you have a hard time expressing opinions that are based on stats.
Rather that’s because you have trouble with the actual meaning of the stats, struggle to prepare the stats within discussion, are just too lazy put that much effort into some long-winded reply, or something else entirely, I don’t know.
But, whatever the reason, you just present any fact-based statement that fits your argument, rather there is any truth to it, or not.
Next, because someone read the thread, and didn’t agree with you…
prough91;125165 wrote:There were alot of stats. It’s just that Chief31 did more with them than you did. No offense.You fly directly to this…
Drunker Hillbilly;125166 wrote:Get off his nuts!!!! So your saying because someone posts more stats than someone else, the fewer are not valid??? Genius!!!!!Shows what a class act you are.
And I am the bully?
I told you a long time ago, that I won’t Mod you, no matter what call me.
I won’t ask another Mod to either.
However, there are other Mods here, and Coach has rules set.
And if you want to ensure that you don’t get moderated, you should probably send that kind of trash in PMs.
Here are your stats!!!!! If you read correctly, I said TOTAL RUSHING YARDS!!!!!!! AGAIN, READ THE POST!!!!!
It’s really simple!!!!! TOTAL RUSHING YARDS 366 to 290. BLACK and WHITE EXACTLY WHAT MY POST SAID! GO TO nfl.com CLICK ON CARDINALS GO TO STATS! I didn’t fabricate it, it’s right there!
Team Statistics
CardinalsOpponentsTOTAL FIRST DOWNS8078FIRST DOWNS (Rushing-passing-by penalty)21 – 52 – 719 – 53 – 6THIRD DOWN CONVERSIONS24/5319/46FOURTH DOWN CONVERSIONS1/11/3TOTAL OFFENSIVE YARDS14931265OFFENSE (Plays-Average Yards)252 – 5.9243 – 5.2TOTAL RUSHING YARDS366290RUSHING (Plays-Average Yards)112 – 3.382 – 3.5TOTAL PASSING YARDS1127975PASSING (Comp-Att-Int-Avg)92 – 135 – 3 – 8.592 – 151 – 9 – 6.9SACKS105FIELD GOALS5/75/6TOUCHDOWNS1411(Rushing-Passing-Returns-Defensive)2 – 11 – 0 – 13 – 7 – 0 – 1TIME OF POSSESSION31:4128:18TURNOVER RATIOWho cares where the coached before? They had some success. Most coaches who win the SB coached somewhere else before they won. Dungy did not win it in Tampa but he did in Indy. The great Bill Cowher took like 13 years to win didn’t he? I am glad that these guys had some success but the ONLY numbers I am interested in are the ones they put up with the Chiefs!!
Drunker Hillbilly;124996 wrote:So, the comparison between last years team and Cards teams of the past is not even close! If you break down the offensive stats from them they are overwhelmingly in their favor:Better avg stats than their opponents in 08 (Cardinals)
More total rushing yds per gameDrunker Hillbilly;125746 wrote:Here are your stats!!!!! If you read correctly, I said TOTAL RUSHING YARDS!!!!!!! AGAIN, READ THE POST!!!!!That’s not it.
Read your own post again. I am getting tired of quoting it. Can you see the part that you missed yet again? I made the letters extra large, and underlined them for ya.
But I didn’t go bold it in the origional post. So you may have to look extra hard, to see that part. But it’s there.
It’s really simple!!!!! TOTAL RUSHING YARDS 366 to 290. BLACK and WHITE EXACTLY WHAT MY POST SAID! GO TO nfl.com CLICK ON CARDINALS GO TO STATS! I didn’t fabricate it, it’s right there!
366 to 290? That’s the playoff numbers that you brought, that I have no interest in disputing. Because I have already agreed that they played well in the playoffs.
Team Statistics
CardinalsOpponentsTOTAL FIRST DOWNS8078FIRST DOWNS (Rushing-passing-by penalty)21 – 52 – 719 – 53 – 6THIRD DOWN CONVERSIONS24/5319/46FOURTH DOWN CONVERSIONS1/11/3TOTAL OFFENSIVE YARDS14931265OFFENSE (Plays-Average Yards)252 – 5.9243 – 5.2TOTAL RUSHING YARDS366290RUSHING (Plays-Average Yards)112 – 3.382 – 3.5TOTAL PASSING YARDS1127975PASSING (Comp-Att-Int-Avg)92 – 135 – 3 – 8.592 – 151 – 9 – 6.9SACKS105FIELD GOALS5/75/6TOUCHDOWNS1411(Rushing-Passing-Returns-Defensive)2 – 11 – 0 – 13 – 7 – 0 – 1TIME OF POSSESSION31:4128:18TURNOVER RATIOAgain, these are playoff stats.
Perhaps your only mistake here was representing playoff stats as regular season stats.
But that would mean that you believed that The Cardinals actually only allowed 290 yards in a 16 game schedule?
So, if we just move beyond this point, by accepting it as a mistake, then That’s fine with me.
However, in being wrong, you have done everything in your power to make others look like idiots.
I showed you where your numbers were wrong twice (post 22 and 28), right away. But your refusal to acknowledge that you may have made a mistake leads me to the notion that it is a lie.
If you are wrong, and you were, then it is either a mistake, or a lie.
And, after I showed you where you were wrong, you insisted that there was no mistake.
But….. Just in case you aren’t ready yet…
Total Rushing Yards
’08 Arizona Cardinals
1,178 (worst in The NFL)
’08 Cardinals’ Opponents
1,764
I think it’s great that we have good coaches running the Chiefs now. We have the 2008 NFC SB Represeantive Offensive and Defensive coaches on our team. These men will be responsible forprepping our players, teaching them how to do the job the way they want it done, practicing them on it til they fall down and then guiding them through the games using the new system they bring with them. I have read that people believe we are copying other people well I don’t call it copying anyone when you bring the people that were doing it elsewhere to where they are doing it for you now. They basically took the people that helped make Tim Whisenhunt look good. They were the reason that Whisenhunt had his team in the SB IMO and they truely did a great job. Now we are asking them to do it for our team and Todd Haley gets to do it for himself now, for his team the KC CHiefs. That has me excited about the 2009 KC Chiefs, I think he combined with Scott Pioli bringing in our new players will turn this team into Champions.
KansasCityChris;125822 wrote:I think it’s great that we have good coaches running the Chiefs now. We have the 2008 NFC SB Represeantive Offensive and Defensive coaches on our team. These men will be responsible forprepping our players, teaching them how to do the job the way they want it done, practicing them on it til they fall down and then guiding them through the games using the new system they bring with them. I have read that people believe we are copying other people well I don’t call it copying anyone when you bring the people that were doing it elsewhere to where they are doing it for you now. They basically took the people that helped make Tim Whisenhunt look good. They were the reason that Whisenhunt had his team in the SB IMO and they truely did a great job. Now we are asking them to do it for our team and Todd Haley gets to do it for himself now, for his team the KC CHiefs. That has me excited about the 2009 KC Chiefs, I think he combined with Scott Pioli bringing in our new players will turn this team into Champions.:11: Well I hope so, but time will tell this story, I just want a Super Bowl Win, or 2,3,4 before I, well you know, go feet up!:wheelchair:
chief31;125777 wrote:Again, these are playoff stats.Perhaps your only mistake here was representing playoff stats as regular season stats.
But that would mean that you believed that The Cardinals actually only allowed 290 yards in a 16 game schedule?
So, if we just move beyond this point, by accepting it as a mistake, then That’s fine with me.
However, in being wrong, you have done everything in your power to make others look like idiots.
I showed you where your numbers were wrong twice (post 22 and 28), right away. But your refusal to acknowledge that you may have made a mistake leads me to the notion that it is a lie.
If you are wrong, and you were, then it is either a mistake, or a lie.
And, after I showed you where you were wrong, you insisted that there was no mistake.
But….. Just in case you aren’t ready yet…
Total Rushing Yards
’08 Arizona Cardinals
1,178 (worst in The NFL)
’08 Cardinals’ Opponents
1,764
So I tried to handle this in the PM I sent you but you refused to deal with it that way! I simply posted what was on nfl.com and you have yet AGAIN called me a liar. You are a piece of work dude! You are the know it all of this site and won’t ever let anyone say different. You are a piece of S***!!! It sure is funny how you want to play Mr. Mod in a lot of cases that have to do with name calling etc. however when it comes to you doing the same it is N/A!!!!! My skin is plenty thick so it doesn’t really affect me but what does is that you feel you can get away with it while telling others not to do it! Your a punk!!!! Practice what you preach or shut up!!!! You have been the sole result in several members leaving this site because of your holier than thou attitude. Chiefster, I think it is your responsibility as a neutral mod in most situations to deal with this guy friend or not! He has displayed this demeanor for far too long and it is time he play by the rules that he so openly preaches!!!!
Drunker Hillbilly;125890 wrote:So I tried to handle this in the PM I sent you but you refused to deal with it that way! I simply posted what was on nfl.com and you have yet AGAIN called me a liar. You are a piece of work dude! You are the know it all of this site and won’t ever let anyone say different. You are a piece of S***!!! It sure is funny how you want to play Mr. Mod in a lot of cases that have to do with name calling etc. however when it comes to you doing the same it is N/A!!!!! My skin is plenty thick so it doesn’t really affect me but what does is that you feel you can get away with it while telling others not to do it! Your a punk!!!! Practice what you preach or shut up!!!! You have been the sole result in several members leaving this site because of your holier than thou attitude. Chiefster, I think it is your responsibility as a neutral mod in most situations to deal with this guy friend or not! He has displayed this demeanor for far too long and it is time he play by the rules that he so openly preaches!!!!The suggestion for PMs was for you to do your name-calling there, and avoid getting moderated.
Beyond that, your reply doesn’t say anything that is relevant to… anything.
Just a bunch of nonsense to try and bury the fact that you were wrong.
Have you tried monkeying with the “Ignore” feature of the site? That may help you solve the problem that you are having.
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