Thats a good point. I think both guys want to be starters in the NFL. Haven’t heard Thig address the media his thoughts on the Cassel trade. If he wants to be a starting qb though, he might want to consider asking Pioli to trade him. Or Pioli might trade him outright anyway. Who knows. But if Thig is content on sitting on the sidelines watching Cassel, thats cool, too. Then we have two good starting qb’s on our roster. Something we didn’t have last year. Time will tell if it was worth our 34th pick….

But what did we get for that 2nd round pick traded away? We got what most people think is a good QB and a starting LB for a couple of years could we have got one player that was for sure as good with that pick? How many 2nd round picks end up being busts in the NFL? For the last 10 years the Chiefs have got very little with their 2nd round pick. I think it was a good trade at least with the QB we know he can play in the correct system that is more than we can say for any draft pick plus we also got a LB for a couple of years that we know is a good team leader.

Sure thing old man, I am following you around!! I have post almost 9000 times on this site and you have posted 200. who is following who?

The trade was a great trade. You’re right. There isn’t A player that is going to be available at #34 that will present as much VALUE as Cassel/Vrabel did. The pure VALUE the Chiefs received with that pick is EXACTLY what the draft is about.

To continue with what I was saying, the draft is about VALUE. NOT NEED. Once you start cornering yourself with need, you end up destroying your entire draft. The Chiefs don’t necessarily have a NEED at LT, but the value they would get by drafting a LT #3 COULD be better than the value they’d receive by taking a non-rushing LB.

(For the record, I’m officially OFF the Curry bandwagon. I was torn between him and a LT, but I’ve decided that taking a non-rushing LB #3 overall is insane. If he were a Derrick Thomas or Shawn Merriman, that would be one thing, but he’s not. He’s a REALLY good Lance Briggs or Bart Scott. Just not worth the #3 overall.)

This might be a difficult concept to grasp. In fact, even most of the talking heads can’t comprehend the idea, but you can’t go into the draft identifying players to fill holes. That would be cheating your team.

I think when you can sign impact players for pennies on the dollar and have them greatly improve one of the three phases of the game it makes sense. Lets not rule out the importance of Special Teams in a football game.

The Chiefs ranked 31st overall in Special Teams compared to the rest of the league (I think I said this before but I’m long winded). If you look at it like that then the Chiefs gave every opponent they faced better field position and put themselves in a whole with worse field position on every possession. This in turn affects the productivity of both the Defense and the Offense by either having to defend the short field to the endzone or go the distance to score.

The Chiefs have been getting impact players for cost efficient contrarcts to shore up a glaring weakness (Special Teams) which affects all aspects of the game while also adding depth to the roster and competition amongst players for starting roles. These names may not be headliners but they are vital roles to fix what was once a strength that has now become a weakness.

I think most of this dissaproval for some fans stems from 2 sources:

1) Cassel Trade (means Thigpen’s on the out)
2) No “Super Star” accquisitions (no Ray Lewis)

I’ll debate that later so you all don’t got swamped in a wall of text

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I agree with DT14Priest. I think these signings will benefit more than everyone thinks. When we had Beisel before, we were pretty good on Special Teams, and I’m not saying he was the only reason but he did help. I’m glad we got Engram. He will help, no matter what the age is. He will be a teacher to DBowe if nothing else. People don’t realize that we don’t need 2 impact players on our defense like Ray Lewis and Haynesworth. Get over the fact that we didn’t get em. Enjoy the team we got bro

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So basically your saying that I have no right to do what I did? I would beg to differ. I called him on it, he answered the call and we delt with it between ourselves but you had to stick your tongue on the metal pipe. Please don’t thnk of me as a fool when you basically made a fool of your own self for looking for a ***** to gripe about. What I said had nothing to do with you, so put that in your pipe buddy. No hard feelings though , I would still give ya a beer :sign0098:

No you don’t have the right to questons people fandom because you don’t agree with them. He was not bashing the team and you jumped down his throat for no reason saying he is not a fan. I don’t want to get into it again about this same old sh!t. You wanna call people out then go ahead but we will see who is leading the charge of the “Real Fans” when we get to Arrowhead!!