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I still think trading away our 34th pick wasn’t the thing to do at this time. But thats my opinion. I don’t know what Pioli has up his sleeve. Maybe he’s planning on getting it back somehow. Either trading down from our 1st pick or packaging Waters/Thig/Gonzo in some way to aquire picks. But I will say this. If Pioli doesn’t get our 2nd pick back somehow, I think trading our 34th was a mistake. I guess its time for me to get thrown under the bus…
jmlamerson;125188 wrote:We’ve picked up two starting ILBs in Vrabel and Biesel.We’ve picked up our QBOTF in Cassel.
We’ve rounded out our WR corps with Engram and Copper.
We’ve upgraded our special teams (majorly).
We’ve upgraded our entire coaching staff.
Yeah, we’ve had a good two months. And we still have a an entire offseason and draft to go.
We could have outbid Washington, Baltimore, the Jets, the Giants, the Cowboys and the rest for 5-6 FAs and used all our cap space. And that would have gotten us 4 or 5 more wins.
That isn’t how good teams are built. Pioli’s way is.
First, it’s Beisel and Cooper. Secondly, our special teams was the least of our worries last year. I might sound selfish, but, right now, I would take 4 or 5 more wins. Beisel only had 15 tackles last year, I would hardly call that shoring up.
Bike;125192 wrote:I still think trading away our 34th pick wasn’t the thing to do at this time. But thats my opinion. I don’t know what Pioli has up his sleeve. Maybe he’s planning on getting it back somehow. Either trading down from our 1st pick or packaging Waters/Thig/Gonzo in some way to aquire picks. But I will say this. If Pioli doesn’t get our 2nd pick back somehow, I think trading our 34th was a mistake. I guess its time for me to get thrown under the bus…Wwon’t know if the trade was good until Cassel gets onto the field so there is no point in arguing it. As far as throwing you under the bus…
Bike;125192 wrote:I still think trading away our 34th pick wasn’t the thing to do at this time. But thats my opinion. I don’t know what Pioli has up his sleeve. Maybe he’s planning on getting it back somehow. Either trading down from our 1st pick or packaging Waters/Thig/Gonzo in some way to aquire picks. But I will say this. If Pioli doesn’t get our 2nd pick back somehow, I think trading our 34th was a mistake. I guess its time for me to get thrown under the bus…I just don’t get why people think like you do. Who do you think we could have gotten in the 2nd round that would equal the value we got from the trade? We got our captains for both sides of the ball. Both are proven winners. We had a 50% chance of busting on our 2nd round pick.
I don’t mean to sound mean or anything, but sometimes I think our whole fanbase was brainwashed by Herm/CP into thinking that draft picks are more valuable than good players. Teams like the Pats have never been shy about trading picks for players when they get good value for the pick. And that’s what we did.
How do we ever expect to win games relying on a bunch of rookies that get traded, who leave as soon as FA hits, or who demand to be massively overpaid to stay? Because that was the pre-Pioli state of things.
Canada;125195 wrote:Wwon’t know if the trade was good until Cassel gets onto the field so there is no point in arguing it. As far as throwing you under the bus…:bananen_smilies046: :bananen_smilies046: 😆 😆 😆
I hope the reason I’m there is due to a healthy intake of some adult beverages.
But, yeah. I hope I’m completely and utterly wrong and Cassel is the qb that brings us the trophy. But we need our 2nd round pick back IMO…Bike;125198 wrote::bananen_smilies046: :bananen_smilies046: 😆 😆 😆
I hope the reason I’m there is due to a healthy intake of some adult beverages.
But, yeah. I hope I’m completely and utterly wrong and Cassel is the qb that brings us the trophy. But we need our 2nd round pick back IMO…I would love to have that pick back too but I dont mind trading it for cassel.
jmlamerson;125197 wrote:I just don’t get why people think like you do. Who do you think we could have gotten in the 2nd round that would equal the value we got from the trade? We got our captains for both sides of the ball. Both are proven winners. We had a 50% chance of busting on our 2nd round pick.I don’t mean to sound mean or anything, but sometimes I think our whole fanbase was brainwashed by Herm/CP into thinking that draft picks are more valuable than good players. Teams like the Pats have never been shy about trading picks for players when they get good value for the pick. And that’s what we did.
How do we ever expect to win games relying on a bunch of rookies that get traded, who leave as soon as FA hits, or who demand to be massively overpaid to stay? Because that was the pre-Pioli state of things.
Thats all well and good if Cassel proves to be THAT much better than Thig. Its just an opinion.
Now step on the gas pedal….prough91;125194 wrote:First, it’s Beisel and Cooper. Secondly, our special teams was the least of our worries last year. I might sound selfish, but, right now, I would take 4 or 5 more wins. Beisel only had 15 tackles last year, I would hardly call that shoring up.It’s probably not a good idea to correct other people’s misspellings. That sort of thing always gets turned around on you. And it is Terrance Copper, not Cooper. Check your work before correcting other people.
Terrance Copper Stats, News, Photos – Kansas City Chiefs – ESPN
Beisel only started towards the end of the year, which is why his tackles aren’t that high. He’s a better LB than any we had on the roster last year not named DJ.
The difference between us is that you’d be happy with a team winning 7-8 games a year, and that’s it. Your plan is a road to mediocrity.
Bike;125200 wrote:Thats all well and good if Cassel proves to be THAT much better than Thig. Its just an opinion.
Now step on the gas pedal….what you dont understand is that cassel also has trade value..and even pigpen, i mean, thigpen, has some trade value. So we can always use the “other” qb as leverage to get a player we need if that scenerio takes place.THE TRADE FOR CASSEL WAS A GREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT RISK!!! HANDS DOWN.
Canada;125199 wrote:I would love to have that pick back too but I dont mind trading it for cassel.Well I won’t argue too much with a fellow Chiefs fan that loves beer even more than myself. But I thought we already had a qb and had needs elsewhere that could’ve been adressed with that 34th pick…
But like I said, I hope I’m wrong and Pioli is right. After all, he gets paid to know this stuff.jmlamerson;125204 wrote:I hate it when people correct other people’s spellings/grammar on a message board. Especially if they, like prough91, don’t know what they’re talking about.you both spelled a name wrong and are fighting about it. Its kinda funny. And just because he does not agree with you does not mean he does not know what he is talking about.
jimmyhindrix444777;125206 wrote:what you dont understand is that cassel also has trade value..and even pigpen, i mean, thigpen, has some trade value. So we can always use the “other” qb as leverage to get a player we need if that scenerio takes place.THE TRADE FOR CASSEL WAS A GREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT RISK!!! HANDS DOWN.These are the dumba$ses i am referring to.
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