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@SBV_Eagle_Bull 281507 wrote:
I don’t think you understand, I myself am Native American. ( Oglala Lakota Sioux ) From the Pine Ridge Indian reservation. And I’m deeply offended by the name redskin. Especially in todays American culture. People look at us, as if we are dead. As in, we don’t exist, Gone for ever, kind of like a Viking, or buccaneer, or a raider. get my point. Why is it, that American can lie, cheat, steal, and commit genocide only a century ago, and people forget… This whole country is based off of Native Americans. (do your own research). And if you don’t believe me. Look at our military, everything is named and based off of native americans. Not too long ago Europeans and other white cultures would stand in a line and shoot at each other. like it was some kind of game..(almost got carried away)… All im saying is, its time to understand that we native americans are still alive and posses the power to change an outrageous pro sports name that was intented to fool the public, that the Indian is dead, and lets honor them by having a pro sports team named after them. Get your mind right. This name would not stand as blackskins, even if you wanted to honor Martin L King, or any other great black man in America. And for the record GO CHIEFS…
Wow… you are reading WAY too much into that name. Did Seattle name their franchise after a bird that no longer exists? How bout the Ravens? Dolphins? Eagles? Falcons? Broncos? Texans? How bout the Cowboys? Do Saints no longer exist or do they offend you as well because they’re tied to Christianity? Were those franchises trying to tell us that all of those things “no longer exist?” Get real. If I have to tolerate you saying that “white Americans lie, cheat, steal, and commit genocide,” then you should have to tolerate a franchise being named the “Redskins.” I refuse to partake in this “white American” guilt every minority tries to push on the people of today that had absolutely NOTHING to do with the happenings of North America hundreds of years ago.
Native American genocide is greatly exaggerated. The REAL evidence suggests the Native American population was wiped out by plague just before Europeans arrived. The population of the Eastern seaboard rivaled the current population before plague wiped the natives out. If the Vikings couldn’t raid the Native American villages, the Red Coats wouldn’t be able to either.
I’ve done my own research. If you really want to get into this, I’d be happy to oblige. Just because you claim to be Native American does not make you an expert on the subject. Along with my writing about the Chiefs, I’m also a big history, religion, and philosophy buff. This “white American” guilt b.s. isn’t going to fly with me. Despite what you think you’ve learned from Hollywood about our history, the white Christians who settled this land weren’t the horrible monsters you and other minorities would like to portray them as. I won’t allow myself to be victimized by the guilt minorities try to lay at my feet because you think your ancestors were too naive and helpless to defend themselves against what you believe was a superior force that had to arrive here 100 people at a time by ship… that doesn’t make any sense.
Millions of Native Americans who lined the east coast weren’t defeated by a few ships full of Europeans. If the Europeans were so bad, there’s no way in hell the Natives would have let them off the boat. It would be like Americans trying to go and settle China RIGHT NOW. I don’t care how advanced our weaponry is, do you honestly think we could send a bunch of ships over there right now and conquer a country if all those people didn’t want us there?
Just stop it. How anyone who is “deeply offended” by the term “Redskin” could watch the NFL year in and year is absolutely astonishing. If I’m deeply offended by something that’s constantly talked about or mentioned, I remove MYSELF from that particular activity. I don’t partake in liberal discussions, I don’t watch Bill Maher, I don’t listen to atheistic arguments, I don’t listen to rap music or watch certain “comedians.” It is THEIR right to say what they want. Why should I force them to change their views and the things they say just because it offends me? If you don’t believe in the constitution, you were granted immunity from our laws on reservations. You have the option not to partake in this culture if you so choose. But, if you are going to be a part of the United States of America, that means you respect the right of ANYONE to say what ever they damn well please. Neither God nor the Constitution guarantees you the right to go through life without being offended.
Put your big boy pants on and realize it’s just the name of a sports franchise. If they change it, so what. It’s not THAT important. But do yourself a favor and stop going out of your way to try and find a reason to be offended. That has to be exhausting.
@jap1 281481 wrote:
Supposedly there was a new poll out that people would be willing to accept a change of name to the Redtails (as in a redtail hawk). It would let them keep the feathers on their logo, as well as their team colors, but be more PC.
Im kinda torn on it. I think it is insulting. I mean, you wouldnt allow a team to be called the LA wetbacks, San Fran Chinks, Georgia N-words, etc and it is pretty much the same thing. That having been said, I dont think redskin is actually used as a slur against Native Americans anymore (then again I am not connected to the Native American community). I wouldnt be opposed to a change, and I think it is just a matter of time for when it will happen.
I also dont think this has any implications on the Chiefs. Chiefs is a title in Native American culture, it isnt an insult, so I would think we would be ok. This argument came up in my high school (The Braves) and it got shot down because of the fact that a brave was honorable (As long as we didnt have a mascot that made an idiot of himself dressed in native american garb).
I know the team/NFL/ apparel companies do not want the change because it would come at a huge cost of re-designing logos, merchandise, discarded of already manufactured merchandise, etc.
I’m so sick of the “PC” culture we’re allowing to run rampant all across this country. If the franchise had meant it in a derogatory manner, they wouldn’t have named the franchise the “Redskins.” The skin in this country is getting so thin, we’re almost transparent. Everyone is starting to feel like they have to walk around on egg shells just so we don’t offend anyone. It’s such B.S. Either we have the first ammendment or we don’t. There’s no in between. One of the consequences to free speech is that someone has the open right to offend you. It’s a small price to pay for the cornerstone of our republic.
A few years back, I watched this kid out of New Braunfels high school, here close to San Antonio play my alma mater. The guy was a lights-out linebacker that needed to be double teamed and accounted for on every play. He was a difference maker and played at a level I had never seen from a high school linebacker. The kid was awesome! He got injured his senior year, but that didn’t stop Oklahoma University from giving him a full ride and watching him become a starter for their program. Tom Wort is one of those players that has amazing talent, but just doesn’t have the entire package. His history of injuries prevented him from being an elite player coming out of college and allowed him to go undrafted altogether. According to Sussex, the Chiefs wanted to sign Wort who certainly has the talent at ILB to become a force in the NFL if he’s able to stay healthy, but the Titans scooped him up first. Even in HS, you could tell this kid had a chance to play on Sundays. It’s a shame the Chiefs weren’t able to bring this guy in. I predict that he’ll make the Titan’s squad as an UDFA.
I don’t know who did this, but it’s obvious who’s to blame!! These people are OBVIOUSLY Glenn Beck listeners and tea-bagging supporters of Sarah Palin who listen to too much talk radio!!!
Someone needs to do something about limiting the conservative talk before this kind of stuff gets out of hand and we have “parking lot boinkers” all over this nation!!
PLEASE… FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, TAKE BECK AND RUSH OFF THE AIRWAYS BEFORE WE ALL START FU@#ING IN THE PARKING LOTS!!
He has a no-trade clause for 15 teams. Apparently the Yankees are on that list. With his history of social anxiety issues, I doubt he’d be willing to play for a big market club. He has also been pissed about the Royals not winning, and no offense, but playing in the AL East on a team not named the RedSox or Yankees isn’t exactly a long-term winning proposition.
If I were the Rangers, I’d build a package around Jurickson Profar (top 3 SS prospect in baseball) and add a couple major league ready pitchers like Tommy Hunter, Kasey Kiker and Danny Guitierrez.
If this trade goes down, you’ll hear the names of Derrick Holland, Martin Perez, Profar, Tanner Scheppers, and Wilmer Font and maybe even Engel Beltre being mentioned as targets.
IMO, for the Rangers to have long-term success, they can’t allow Holland, Perez, Scheppers or Beltre to leave… BUT those are the names the Royals are going to want. I just don’t think 2 years of Grienke are worth those names.
Jurrickson Profar is a top SS prospect in all of baseball. However, the Rangers have the 21yo Elvis Andrus entrenched at the SS position for the next 12 years. The only future Profar has on this Rangers team is if he switches to 2B and Kinsler goes to the OF/DH.
SalinaChiefsFan;211461 wrote:Grienke still has 2 years on his current contract. No on in the Royals organization has spoken publicly, but I’ve read several reports citing “unnamed sources close to the team” (translated: half-assed speculation) that Grienke is on the market for the right deal. Knowing how the Royals front office negotiates, you might be able to pick him up for some shiny beads and an empty beer candone and done
Ryfo18;208148 wrote:But what if you were able to sign Fielder to an extension?Assuming we sign Cliff Lee to an extension first…
Prince Fielder +5 year extension
For
Derrick Holland-Major League Pitcher (expendable with Cliff Lee and Martin Perez)
Mitch Moreland-Major League 1B (expendable with Prince Fielder obviously)
Kasey Kiker-AAA Pitcher (top 10 prospect)
Julio Borbon-Major League CF (expendable with Hamilton and Beltre)Ryfo18;208037 wrote:What chips do you have that would land you someone like Fielder (Brewers fan here)? Something like Martin Perez/Holland and maybe an infielder in return would be nice
.I must have been mistaken. I thought I saw him on a list of free agents this upcoming winter. I remember being shocked they were letting him walk.
In a trade, there’s no way in hell y’all or anyone else will EVER get their hands on Perez. I’d much rather build a package around Holland/Davis or Moreland. Perhaps a couple high ceiling A ball pitchers, but ONLY if he signs an extension before hand.
Holland/Moreland + a couple A ball pitchers is > 1 year of Fielder
The Rangers are looking to boost payroll and be BIG players this offseason. You can bank on them going HARD after Lee and one of the top first basemen like Prince Fielder.
The Yankees won’t go after Grienke and risk everything they’d have to give up on a chance that Grienke’s anxiety issues won’t return on that stage in New York.
The Rangers want to boost payroll in the “right way” and spending money on 2 aces in Lee and Grienke and on a first baseman, would be spending money in the “right way.” Also, there’s no one in the league who can offer a package comparable to anything Texas has to offer. The Rangers have had the best farm system the past 2 years and didn’t lose many big pieces in deadline trades other than Justin Smoak.
Any Carl Peterson influence on this team after 2000.
The 2009 Draft
Firing Gailey one week before the 2009 regular season (I’m sorry, but this was the DUMBEST EFFIN THING I’VE EVER SEEN A HEAD COACH DO… PERIOD!!)
Although most ostrich Chiefs fans would prefer to stick their heads in the sand and say it was Herm Edwards who ran the team into the ground, the absolute WORST thing that happened to this team were the draft classes and scouting of the early 00’s. The Vermeil/Peterson off-seasons were the primary cause of the recent Chiefs atrocities. The Chiefs sold their soul (top draft picks) for vets to try and win a Super Bowl before Lamar passed away and it didn’t pay off… thus, we had to pay for it over the last 4 years.
I’m EXTREMELY impressed Pioli/Haley have been able to turn a roster built for a 4-3 into a respectable 3-4 while also turning the offense into something that can compete in just 2 off seasons while throwing away an entire draft class (among other things)… Seriously impressive.
bwilliams;192934 wrote:I wasn’t trying to be that smart. Just Canadian smart.And you should be proud. Your mom is a very sexy lady. At least with a bag over her head she is.
oh… wow
this is DEFINITELY an interesting comment. 😆
I’m proud of BWill for not just rolling over and blindly following the blind, but let’s not make this personal.
That being said, BWill is the only one who has posted any football related content while the majority of the rest of y’all are doing nothing but running him into the ground with nothing to show why YOU think your opinion is better.
It doesn’t take some great football mind to point out all the mistakes this staff, the last staff, and the staff before it, have made. You can’t pretend you know all the mistakes Herm/CP made without being able to acknowledge crap like firing the OC 1 week before the season starts, or releasing a Pro Bowl quality Safety, or not playing your best players, or not signing/drafting at NT, etc, etc.
If you can’t acknowledge these mistakes, you really should quit posting because you know NOTHING about football. PERIOD.
slc chief;192829 wrote:i know the chiefs have improved alot this offseason.you tend to differ. so lets make it interesting.if the mods approve i will bet all of my arrowhead cash. (wich is not much i have a gambling problem)that the chiefs get at the very least 6 wins this year.if i lose i will donate my arrowcash to you.when you lose you do the same. or anyone else that wants to take the bet i am open.it is a friendly wager if you want to back up your opinions let me know6 games?!! 😆
I bet it’s lonely out there on that limb. 😆 😆
