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Chill out. I’m not saying you made it up, I’m saying that we have unrealistic people on there, just like the kc fan who posted on the Bengal’s smack board that the final would be 38-3 chiefs. I know I didn’t see it on smack, but I don’t go into the other sections very much because of the inability of some of the posters to be rational. If you felt that I was implying that you made it up, you have my deepest heart felt apologies. Probably.
Yup, I called them HOMERS. I do that on both boards. If you go into the smack section I post under 3777 there as well.
I love to talk football and respect everyone who wants to rationally talk it back, whether smack or normal conversation. As Chiefster pointed out, some level of homerism is normal and a good thing. Failing to be able to see your own team’s deficiencies or the positives that an opponent brings to the table is not.
BTW, for an educational experience, go to the smack section and see the postings from non-Bengal fans and you will see why they don’t let outsiders post on the fan site.
I’m not sure if this is what you meant, but this should give you the story. Hat’s off to the man!
“Chief’s Green Has Walked in Palmer’s Brace”
The American Century Championship celebrity golf tournament in South Lake Tahoe, Nev., afforded Trent Green time enough to do more than squeeze in a few offseason rounds.
The Chiefs quarterback took the mid-July event as a chance to pull Carson Palmer aside and share some insight with the Bengals quarterback about coming back from reconstructive knee surgery.
“We had a chance to talk a little bit about what training camp was going to be like for him, what the preseason games were going to be like … with linemen falling around your feet and knees and all of the sudden with a knee brace on,” Green said. “Just a lot of the mental stuff that goes on.”
An injury similar to the one Palmer suffered in the AFC wild-card playoff game in January cost Green the entire 1999 season and his starting job with the Rams and ultimately led him in 2001 to Kansas City, where he since has flourished.
The two-time Pro Bowl invitee picked up the phone upon learning the extent of Palmer’s injury.
“He called me a lot,” Palmer said. “He always had some helpful insight. … Just encouraged me to keep working hard. That nobody can set limits on your rehab. Nobody is going to tell you when you’re ready. You’re going to be ready when you’re ready and work as hard as you physically can and try to get to that date.”
The date is Sunday.
Eight months to the day since Dr. Lonnie Paulos repaired tears of the anterior cruciate and medial collateral ligaments in Palmer’s knee, the 26-year-old will start the season opener against the Chiefs at Arrowhead Stadium. He started the Bengals’ final two preseason games and played a total of six offensive series.
Green, 36, will make his 81st consecutive and 100th career start.
“I think physically if you look at what he’s been able to do, that’s pretty much been settled,” he said of Palmer. “I don’t think anybody has any doubt from a physical standpoint that he’s going to be fine.”
That Green reached out to Palmer does not surprise Chiefs head coach Herm Edwards.
“Trent’s that kind of guy,” Edwards said. “He went through that same deal when he got injured with that bad injury with the Rams, and he came off it and came here and has had a very productive career here.”
A St. Louis native, Green had signed a four-year, $16.5 million contract after establishing himself as Washington’s starter during the 1998 season and was breezing through the 1999 preseason with the Rams when then-Chargers safety Rodney Harrison crashed into his left knee.
Green tore the anterior cruciate and medial collateral ligaments and lateral meniscus. His backup, Kurt Warner, emerged as the NFL’s regular-season MVP by leading the Rams to a 13-3 record and was the MVP of a Super Bowl win.
Green had reconstructive surgery – doctors used a patellar tendon graft to fix the torn ACL rather than a cadaver’s tendon, as was used in Palmer’s knee – and two follow-up procedures on the injured knee. He returned to practice less than 10 months later but had lost the starting job to Warner by then. He played in eight games in the 2000 season.
“I wanted to get back so fast that it ultimately probably hurt me in the rehab process,” Green said. “I wasn’t real patient with it.”
He underwent a fourth procedure, on a cyst that had developed behind his left knee because of repeated swelling, after that season.
“Carson hasn’t had any of that,” Green said. “Any time you can come back from that type of surgery and not have to deal with a lot of swelling and setbacks, that’s a real positive thing. I think by that happening that alleviates the chance of him having to go back in.
“Now, because it is such a major process, at some point in time, whether it be later in his career, whether it be two, five, seven, 10 years down the road or when he’s out of football, more likely than not he’s going to have to have another procedure just because of the clean-up factor.”
The Rams traded Green and a fifth-round draft pick to Kansas City on April 20, 2001 for a first-round pick. Sunday marks the beginning of his sixth season with the Chiefs and 13th overall.
During his five seasons with Kansas City, Green has 44 regular-season wins and passed for 20,117 yards – second-most in the NFL during that span – with 111 touchdowns and 76 interceptions.
His efforts off the field impress Palmer just as much.
“It’s something that has kind of stuck with me, knowing that I went through that situation and knowing that he and a couple other guys helped me out,” Palmer said of Green’s assistance. “It made me realize I need to be doing the same thing for other guys that get hurt.”
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Here’s a thread to make predictions for individual performances for this week’s game. Here’s mine:Carson Palmer: 19-25, 317 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT
Rudi Johnson: 27 carries, 144 yards, 2 TD
Chad Johnson: 7 receptions, 113 yards, 1 TD
TJ Houshmandzadeh: 6 receptions, 97 yards, 1 TD
Chris Henry: 3 receptions, 74 yards, 1 TDCincinnati Defense comes up with 4 sacks, 2 picks, and one fumble recovery.
Larry Johnson: 33 carries, 106 yards, 2 TD
What do you think?
This is hot off the presses at the Bengal Board, Rudi Johnson gets more yard than LJ, in his dreams.
Well that’s their assesments as they boast of their coming victory, personally I don’t see them finding their way out of the Jungle alive. GO CHIEF’SAs a veteran of the Bengal’s board, I can tell you that we have a fair amount of absolute HOMERS on there as well. Although I just left the official smack board, I sure didn’t see anything like this posted. Anyone who thinks that it will be that lopsided is a Maroon.
I do think the Bengals win, but just like kc, we have people on there who go with their hearts instead of their heads. Actually for the first time we have 3 or 4 chief posters, and their posts seem remarkably similar to what you claim was posted by the Bengals.
My prediction was Bengals 34, chiefs 21. I don’t see anyone shutting LJ down.
I have to admit to being a novice on message boards. I’m not sure how to link it, but it was in the Cincinnati Enquirer sports section for 9/7/06. I know that you can read the Enquirer on line, but I don’t know whether the story would be in the on-line version or not.
They were rightfully very complimentary to Green, and Palmer indicated that it meant a lot to him. Even more telling of the class that Green has, it was Green who apparently reached out to Palmer.
Just 2 more days until the fun begins.
Quote:Chiefster wrote:Quote:Guru wrote:Quote:3777 wrote:
It should be a great game. The noise level generated by almost 80,000 die hard, knowledgable fans, is hard to quanitfy, but the weapons on the Bengals offense are numerous. I’m primarily concerned about Gonzalez and LJ of course, but I do think the Bengals have made sufficient improvement on their D to be an average NFL defense this year instead of the doormat they were in the past.I also have to give kc props for Trent Green. Nice articles today in the Cincinnati Enquirer concerning Green’s relationship with Carson Palmer and how encouraging he has been. Nice to know that there are some true class acts out there like Green.
Here’s to a great game on Sunday (with the Bengals winning of course!)
I thought that was downright awesome of Trent to do that.
Link???
Nice analysis and response, even down to the sarcasm. In another post I recognize Gonzales, although I have to admit to having spelled his name incorrectly. The problem with shootouts though, regardless of last year’s game, is needing a variety of weapons. You named 3. The stats for those 3 speak for themselves, but what about the wideouts that you don’t mention by name? Your concern should be that the Bengals bring the #2 passer, a 1400 yard running back, and 3 wide outs that could start for any team in the NFL. In the preseason game, the Bengals did not play conservative football with Palmer. They tried all of the routs that a vanilla preseason game plan includes, plus Palmer scrambling and even running 11 yards for a first down. Don’t look for them to try to baby Palmer. At the same time, that 1400 yard back, playing behind one of the top 5 lines in the NFL is there to even it out.
Both teams have good offenses, but until the effect of Roaf’s retirement and the state of your o line is demonstrated, I look for the chief’s d to have a very long day.
All in all it should be an exciting and great game. Here is to a hard fought game with no injuries and the best team winning!
It should be a great game. The noise level generated by almost 80,000 die hard, knowledgable fans, is hard to quanitfy, but the weapons on the Bengals offense are numerous. I’m primarily concerned about Gonzalez and LJ of course, but I do think the Bengals have made sufficient improvement on their D to be an average NFL defense this year instead of the doormat they were in the past.
I also have to give kc props for Trent Green. Nice articles today in the Cincinnati Enquirer concerning Green’s relationship with Carson Palmer and how encouraging he has been. Nice to know that there are some true class acts out there like Green.
Here’s to a great game on Sunday (with the Bengals winning of course!)
On the Bengals site we have heard repeatedly about the improved kansas city defense, but no one backs up the claim with facts. I understand that you have added Law and have a rookie starting, why do the kc fans on our site seem convinced that will make all of the difference on how good your D is?
What they neglect is the fact that the Bengals have also worked hard to upgrade their D for this year. We get our starting safety back after a season ending shoulder injury early last year (Williams), Adams, a pro bowl player who is a true run stuffer, and another good safety who has been the SB MVP in Jackson. Plus changes in 6 other positions.
I’m looking for opinion, based on realistic facts, regarding whether the kc D will be able to contain the #2 QB in the league, a 1400 yard rusher, the O Line that gave up the 2nd least amount of sacks last year and returns intact, as well as what several NFL “experts” regard as the best receiving corps in football.
I don’t expect the Bengals D to stop LJ, but beyond him, how does kc fare in a shootout>
