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01/15/2011 at 2:03 am #745453
Boxermm187
MemberWon’t happen but,found a interesting article of Haley! Cowher being mentioned too. good assessment on Todd
About Todd Haley | Red Zone01/15/2011 at 2:13 am #965579honda522
MemberGod, if people are really calling for Haley to be out after 1 playoff loss, than thats ridiculus.
I don’t know about anyone else, but I don’t want to be like the Raiders and change head coaches ever 2 years. That kind of stuff is hard on a team and thats why one of the reasons for the Raiders sucking is.
01/15/2011 at 2:20 am #965581imported_Coach
MemberAgreed, don’t want to change coaches. Unless we could have cowher
01/15/2011 at 2:31 am #965583chief31
MemberI have been all about the idea of bringing Cowher here since he retired from The Steelers. I think he is a top-notch HC.
However, Todd Haley is The Chiefs’ HC. And he has done an amazing job through two seasons.
If I were given the opportunity to choose, right now, I couldn’t possibly put this team through the changes that would occur with a HC change.
I wouldn’t hire Bill Bellichick in place of Todd Haley this offseason.
Todd Haley is our guy. And he now has to prove to me that he isn’t a great HC, for me to want him out.
01/15/2011 at 2:34 am #965584Connie Jo
Memberchief31;225314 wrote:I have been all about the idea of bringing Cowher here since he retired from The Steelers. I think he is a top-notch HC.However, Todd Haley is The Chiefs’ HC. And he has done an amazing job through two seasons.
If I were given the opportunity to choose, right now, I couldn’t possibly put this team through the changes that would occur with a HC change.
I wouldn’t hire Bill Bellichick in place of Todd Haley this offseason.
Todd Haley is our guy. And he now has to prove to me that he isn’t a great HC, for me to want him out.
I agree 100%!! :bananen_smilies046:
01/15/2011 at 3:13 am #965588Hayvern
MemberLast year I would have let Haley go in a heartbeat. Even still there are things about him that make me want him gone. If he comes out again next season with the mindset that he can be head coach AND offensive coordinator, I will once again be off the Haley bandwagon. He simply is NOT that kind of coach right now.
That would mean that Haley really does need to learn to use an OC. he cannot be allowed to make game time decisions, coach players in the game, AND call plays all at the same time.
01/15/2011 at 3:17 am #965590Chiefster
ParticipantHow ’bout Bill Parcells?
01/15/2011 at 3:20 am #965592Hayvern
MemberChiefster;225322 wrote:How ’bout Bill Parcells?I still believe there is a place for Parcells. I fully expect them to announce that he is taking over as President of Football Operations for Hunt himself.
01/15/2011 at 6:25 am #965595Bike
MemberCoach;225312 wrote:Agreed, don’t want to change coaches. Unless we could have cowherI would love to have Cowher. But heres an interesting tidbit: There has never been a head coach that has won a superbowl and then go to another team, and win a superbowl. Not that we couldn’t be the first!
And I disagree with Teicher when he said Pioli couldn’t work with Cowher because Pioli wants complete control over player personnel. I think Pioli wants to win a superbowl – period. I doubt his ego would get in the way of that.01/15/2011 at 12:35 pm #965596imported_AussieChiefsFan
Memberhonda522;225310 wrote:God, if people are really calling for Haley to be out after 1 playoff loss, than thats ridiculus.I don’t know about anyone else, but I don’t want to be like the Raiders and change head coaches ever 2 years. That kind of stuff is hard on a team and thats why one of the reasons for the Raiders sucking is.
I agree. Haley has got to stay.
01/15/2011 at 3:07 pm #965597chiefnut
Memberlisten, i was against hiring haley in the beginning, but even i have to admit he has done a good job and although i would trade him for cower, there should be no discussion of his job security based on what hew has done this year.
01/15/2011 at 5:05 pm #965600bwilliams
MemberLook, I’m not Haley’s biggest fan. But bringing in Cowher would be a terrible idea.
I know the media sucked up to Cowher for a decade and a half, but he was not a strong game coach. He coached in the worst division in FB (AFC Central – some mixture of Bengals, Browns, Ravens, Jags, and Titans/Oilers) and ran up winning regular season records. But he was a miserable playoffs coach, only winning a SB in that miserable, horribly officiated Seahawks/Steelers SB. Mike Tomlin has done more in Pittsburgh in his four years than Cowher did in his whole tenure.
Anyway, it’s all moot, because Cowher will only go somewhere he has complete power over player personnel. And Pioli ain’t giving that up.
01/15/2011 at 6:54 pm #965602GarH
MemberNow if we can get Vince Lambardi, I say let Haley go, otherwise I definitely want Haley back. Seriously though I think talk of replacing Haley is ABSOLUTELY ridiculous. He’s done a great job.
01/15/2011 at 8:35 pm #965605chief31
Memberbwilliams;225335 wrote:Look, I’m not Haley’s biggest fan. But bringing in Cowher would be a terrible idea.I know the media sucked up to Cowher for a decade and a half, but he was not a strong game coach. He coached in the worst division in FB (AFC Central – some mixture of Bengals, Browns, Ravens, Jags, and Titans/Oilers) and ran up winning regular season records. But he was a miserable playoffs coach, only winning a SB in that miserable, horribly officiated Seahawks/Steelers SB. Mike Tomlin has done more in Pittsburgh in his four years than Cowher did in his whole tenure.
Pure horse s***!
With the exception of the first few seasons, Cower was 96-63-1 from ’97 through ’06. And, in that time, The AFC Central/North was a better than .500 division.
And that is allowing you to neglect his first five seasons, where the division was weaker. Over those five seasons, the new HC had a record of 53-27, with four divisional championships.
Now…
How about that playoff record of 12-9?
12-9 is a “miserable” playoff record?
Making it to two Super Bowls, winning one, (The other game may have been bought) is “miserable”?
This has to be a joke.
And Mike Tomlin, while he has done a fantastic job of sustaining the success that Cower brought, was clearly the luckiest man in The NFL when he took over as The Steelers’ HC. What a perfect situation to start with.
But, four years of excellence is, in no way, comparable to taking a losing franchise and turning it into a fifteen year domination machine.
01/15/2011 at 9:19 pm #965607matthewschiefs
Participantbwilliams;225335 wrote:Look, I’m not Haley’s biggest fan. But bringing in Cowher would be a terrible idea.I know the media sucked up to Cowher for a decade and a half, but he was not a strong game coach. He coached in the worst division in FB (AFC Central – some mixture of Bengals, Browns, Ravens, Jags, and Titans/Oilers) and ran up winning regular season records. But he was a miserable playoffs coach, only winning a SB in that miserable, horribly officiated Seahawks/Steelers SB. Mike Tomlin has done more in Pittsburgh in his four years than Cowher did in his whole tenure.
Anyway, it’s all moot, because Cowher will only go somewhere he has complete power over player personnel. And Pioli ain’t giving that up.
While I agree that it is a moot point I think that Bill Cowher is a very good head coach. He may not have had the toughest divison in football but when you played his teams you always new that you were in for a fight. You can use the weak divson for the regular season but he went to 2 superbowls and won many more games in the playoffs he was playing some really good teams there. he has a 12-9 playoff record that’s not to shabby.
But I don’t want a change in head coach. I like Haley he has done a great job as the chiefs coach and I think that he is only going to get better
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