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Chiefs camp buzz: Haley not talking about Cassel’s play – Kansas City Star
Quote:Matt Cassel’s play has slipped since the early portion of training camp, and Tuesday’s practice wasn’t his best. He missed some throws, including one when he had Quinten Lawrence open deep. The ball was slightly underthrown and intercepted by Brandon Flowers.Cassel’s struggles began during an intrasquad scrimmage two weeks ago when he committed three turnovers. He has had a problem with turnovers since and lost a fumble during last week’s preseason opener against Houston.
Asked whether Cassel has been the best quarterback in camp, coach Todd Haley deferred.
“I think I’ll hold out on answering that right now,” he said.
Kind of sickening in a way. I didn’t expect to see any question that Cassel was the best QB on the team after giving him the monster contract. Hopefully things get better in the next few weeks.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Croyle starts the next game in a couple days against the Vikes. That doesn’t mean I think he’ll be the starter at the regular season or that Cassel won’t see significant playing time against the Vikes. I just wouldn’t be surprised to see this happen. It’d give both Cassel and Croyle extra incentive to play and train harder and would be a play right out of the Todd Haley coaching book.
captainamerica;149304 wrote:I wouldn’t be surprised if Croyle starts the next game in a couple days against the Vikes. That doesn’t mean I think he’ll be the starter at the regular season or that Cassel won’t see significant playing time against the Vikes. I just wouldn’t be surprised to see this happen. It’d give both Cassel and Croyle extra incentive to play and train harder and would be a play right out of the Todd Haley coaching book.…kinda what I was thinking.
captainamerica;149304 wrote:I wouldn’t be surprised if Croyle starts the next game in a couple days against the Vikes. That doesn’t mean I think he’ll be the starter at the regular season or that Cassel won’t see significant playing time against the Vikes. I just wouldn’t be surprised to see this happen. It’d give both Cassel and Croyle extra incentive to play and train harder and would be a play right out of the Todd Haley coaching book.Bowe was knocked down to third string for dropping some ball so why can’t Cassel get dropped down to the #2 spot for his performance on saturday? :owws:
okikcfan;149317 wrote:Bowe was knocked down to third string for dropping some ball so why can’t Cassel get dropped down to the #2 spot for his performance on saturday? :owws:Cassels balls were thrown perfectly. We just have some awful WR.
Jesus, why is everyone putting so much pressure on Cassel in camp? Do you think Brady, Manning, Brees, or some other high end QB looks like the best in camp?
honda522;149318 wrote:Cassels balls were thrown perfectly. We just have some awful WR.Jesus, why is everyone putting so much pressure on Cassel in camp? Do you think Brady, Manning, Brees, or some other high end QB looks like the best in camp?
No, but don’t you think they sure as hell look better than the 3rd stringers?
Why are they putting so much pressure on him in camp? I can give you 63 million reasons… Big contracts don’t come without expectations, and Haley doesn’t strike me as the type who is going to give any player a free pass because of their paycheck. That’s Herm Edwards style.
yashi;149340 wrote:No, but don’t you think they sure as hell look better than the 3rd stringers?Why are they putting so much pressure on him in camp? I can give you 63 million reasons… Big contracts don’t come without expectations, and Haley doesn’t strike me as the type who is going to give any player a free pass because of their paycheck. That’s Herm Edwards style.
Yes, the WR’s are TERRIBLE. During that game, he threw 5 passes. 2 which were complete, 3 in complete and out of the 3, 2 of them were dropped.
Your expecting what you saw in NE. That ain’t going to happen. No Moss, no Welker, no Gaffney, no Backs to throw to.
Everyone has to realize that cassel is going to have to adjust to the new team mates, coaches, and coaching styles. Just back off and give him time.
honda522;149347 wrote:Yes, the WR’s are TERRIBLE. During that game, he threw 5 passes. 2 which were complete, 3 in complete and out of the 3, 2 of them were dropped.Your expecting what you saw in NE. That ain’t going to happen. No Moss, no Welker, no Gaffney, no Backs to throw to.
Everyone has to realize that cassel is going to have to adjust to the new team mates, coaches, and coaching styles. Just back off and give him time.
I have no problem with how he played last Saturday. I actually though he looked pretty good. But I still don’t like hearing about Brodie Croyle outplaying him in camp.
honda522;149318 wrote:Cassels balls were thrown perfectly. We just have some awful WR.Jesus, why is everyone putting so much pressure on Cassel in camp? Do you think Brady, Manning, Brees, or some other high end QB looks like the best in camp?
They had just as much pressure on them before the proved they could handle the position. Probably even more in some cases. Cassel hasn’t proven anything yet. Until he does, he should be questioned as the #1 guy.
texaschief;149352 wrote:They had just as much pressure on them before the proved they could handle the position. Probably even more in some cases. Cassel hasn’t proven anything yet. Until he does, he should be questioned as the #1 guy.:bananen_smilies046: You got that, but Cassel has proven more than anyone before training camp started.
I believe in Cassel though. In fact, I was against bringing in Cassel to begin with.
honda522;149378 wrote::bananen_smilies046: You got that, but Cassel has proven more than anyone before training camp started.I disagree. I know it’s been said before, but it bears repeating. Thigpen put up numbers that were just as good as Cassel’s and he did so with a lot less talent around him. I think the QB position should be up for grabs. If Thigpen or Croyle outplay Cassel than they deserve to be given the opportunity for the starting job.
Everyone needs to read Q&A with Haley 8/19. A lot of you as well as the press are taken what Haley said yesterday out of context. All he meant is that like every position, the QB position is an open competition and it wouldn’t be fair to anyone to say who is doing better at this time. I would be surprised if Cassel isn’t working with Bowe, Toomer and Engrim this week.
captainamerica;149379 wrote:I disagree. I know it’s been said before, but it bears repeating. Thigpen put up numbers that were just as good as Cassel’s and he did so with a lot less talent around him. I think the QB position should be up for grabs. If Thigpen or Croyle outplay Cassel than they deserve to be given the opportunity for the starting job.He also ran a gimmick offense geared especially for him, threw to the greatest Tight End of all time, and had a big target at WR in Dwayne Bowe.
Thigpen is an intriguing player with a very unique play style but, like I’ve said in a previous thread, if the Chiefs wanted a QB like Thigpen to run an offense then they should’ve gone for Vick who does everything Thig. does on the field only much better.
I like Thigpen as an athlete, don’t get me wrong, but I don’t want him playing QB for any sort of longevity. He’s a trick player. A gadget guy at best.
3 weeks ago, I said that when Brodie entered the competition he would take over. I said almost verbatim that Thigpen would stand no chance against him and it doesn’t surprise me one bit that he is giving Cassell a hard time. Brodie is awsome. He is a pure bread QB with a cannon. Like JM said: “Brodie would be a HOF QB if this was flag football.” I love that Quote J. Anyway, It’s not flag football and unfortunatly if Brodie starts, the backup will be in soon after.
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